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An air carrier flight crew flying a B737-800 reports acknowledging to ground control at pvd that they failed to stop at the hold short line to runway 5R/23L.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 455450 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199911 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : pvd.airport |
| State Reference | RI |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B737-800 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : pvd.tower |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff ground : takeoff roll |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : flight engineer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 11410 flight time type : 1320 |
| ASRS Report | 455450 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : clearance non adherence : far |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory controller : provided flight assist flight crew : became reoriented |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Airport Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
| Situations | |
| Airport | markings : pvd.airport procedure or policy : pvd.airport |
Narrative:
We were taxiing from the terminal to runway 34 via taxiway T1, taxiway C and taxiway K. We were told to hold short of runway 5R/23L. As we made the turn from taxiway C onto K, a jet took off in front of us using runway 23L. After turning onto taxiway K, I looked for the hold short lines on taxiway K. We were looking directly into the morning sun. I saw some hold short lines prior to runway 23L, but after looking at them for a few seconds and getting closer to them, both the captain and I realized that they had been painted over. Just then, pvd ground advised us to hold short of runway 23L, that we had passed the hold short line. I told ground that we were holding short, that we knew that we had passed the hold short line, but the line was very difficult to see taxiing toward the sun. No other comment was made by ground or me.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR FLC FLYING A B737-800 RPTS ACKNOWLEDGING TO GND CTL AT PVD THAT THEY FAILED TO STOP AT THE HOLD SHORT LINE TO RWY 5R/23L.
Narrative: WE WERE TAXIING FROM THE TERMINAL TO RWY 34 VIA TXWY T1, TXWY C AND TXWY K. WE WERE TOLD TO HOLD SHORT OF RWY 5R/23L. AS WE MADE THE TURN FROM TXWY C ONTO K, A JET TOOK OFF IN FRONT OF US USING RWY 23L. AFTER TURNING ONTO TXWY K, I LOOKED FOR THE HOLD SHORT LINES ON TXWY K. WE WERE LOOKING DIRECTLY INTO THE MORNING SUN. I SAW SOME HOLD SHORT LINES PRIOR TO RWY 23L, BUT AFTER LOOKING AT THEM FOR A FEW SECONDS AND GETTING CLOSER TO THEM, BOTH THE CAPT AND I REALIZED THAT THEY HAD BEEN PAINTED OVER. JUST THEN, PVD GND ADVISED US TO HOLD SHORT OF RWY 23L, THAT WE HAD PASSED THE HOLD SHORT LINE. I TOLD GND THAT WE WERE HOLDING SHORT, THAT WE KNEW THAT WE HAD PASSED THE HOLD SHORT LINE, BUT THE LINE WAS VERY DIFFICULT TO SEE TAXIING TOWARD THE SUN. NO OTHER COMMENT WAS MADE BY GND OR ME.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.