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Attributes | |
ACN | 460852 |
Time | |
Date | 200001 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : cvg.airport |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727-100 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 14400 flight time type : 100 |
ASRS Report | 460852 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical maintenance problem : non compliance with mel maintenance problem : improper maintenance maintenance problem : improper documentation non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : #2 rev position lights other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | other Other |
Factors | |
Maintenance | contributing factor : schedule pressure performance deficiency : non compliance with legal requirements |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Company Aircraft Flight Crew Human Performance Maintenance Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Maintenance Human Performance |
Situations | |
Publication | Minimum Equipment List |
Narrative:
During taxi out for takeoff we found that the #2 thrust reverser was inoperative. We called company maintenance and they advised us that we could treat as an in flight failure. The general company policy as taught during ground school seems to be if an item fails in the blocks then use the MEL 'minimum equipment list' for the aircraft. If it fails after leaving the blocks then consult the checklist. I feel the weakness with this system is many failures are left up to individual flight crews as to if it is safe and legal to proceed with the flight. Basically, if you're on the ground and it breaks, then stay on the ground and fix it or properly defer it using the MEL. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: the reporter stated the carrier maintenance policy of allowing deferral of systems when the aircraft is off the gate and not actually flying needs review. The reporter said the #2 reverser would not deploy when checked during taxi for takeoff and maintenance control was advised. The reporter said the maintenance controller advised writing the discrepancy in the logbook going into the next station. The reporter had second thoughts about what they were doing. The reporter stated the minimum equipment list is carried in the cockpit and referenced, but the special procedures were not noted.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B727-100 WAS DISPATCHED IN NON COMPLIANCE WITH A THRUST REVERSER INOPERATIVE BUT NOT DEFERRED PER THE MINIMUM EQUIPMENT LIST REQUIREMENTS.
Narrative: DURING TAXI OUT FOR TKOF WE FOUND THAT THE #2 THRUST REVERSER WAS INOPERATIVE. WE CALLED COMPANY MAINT AND THEY ADVISED US THAT WE COULD TREAT AS AN IN FLIGHT FAILURE. THE GENERAL COMPANY POLICY AS TAUGHT DURING GND SCHOOL SEEMS TO BE IF AN ITEM FAILS IN THE BLOCKS THEN USE THE MEL 'MINIMUM EQUIPMENT LIST' FOR THE AIRCRAFT. IF IT FAILS AFTER LEAVING THE BLOCKS THEN CONSULT THE CHECKLIST. I FEEL THE WEAKNESS WITH THIS SYSTEM IS MANY FAILURES ARE LEFT UP TO INDIVIDUAL FLIGHT CREWS AS TO IF IT IS SAFE AND LEGAL TO PROCEED WITH THE FLIGHT. BASICALLY, IF YOU'RE ON THE GND AND IT BREAKS, THEN STAY ON THE GND AND FIX IT OR PROPERLY DEFER IT USING THE MEL. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH REPORTER REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THE RPTR STATED THE CARRIER MAINT POLICY OF ALLOWING DEFERRAL OF SYSTEMS WHEN THE ACFT IS OFF THE GATE AND NOT ACTUALLY FLYING NEEDS REVIEW. THE RPTR SAID THE #2 REVERSER WOULD NOT DEPLOY WHEN CHECKED DURING TAXI FOR TAKEOFF AND MAINT CONTROL WAS ADVISED. THE RPTR SAID THE MAINT CONTROLLER ADVISED WRITING THE DISCREPANCY IN THE LOGBOOK GOING INTO THE NEXT STATION. THE RPTR HAD SECOND THOUGHTS ABOUT WHAT THEY WERE DOING. THE RPTR STATED THE MINIMUM EQUIP LIST IS CARRIED IN THE COCKPIT AND REFERENCED, BUT THE SPECIAL PROCEDURES WERE NOT NOTED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.