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Attributes | |
ACN | 464253 |
Time | |
Date | 200002 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | intersection : azell |
State Reference | NC |
Altitude | msl single value : 28000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdc.artcc artcc : zhu.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DC-9 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise : enroute altitude change |
Route In Use | departure sid : pack 5. rdu |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdc.artcc |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 750 |
ASRS Report | 464253 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot conflict : airborne critical non adherence : company policies non adherence : clearance non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to assigned altitude |
Miss Distance | vertical : 700 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were given FL280 to leveloff. Within 1000 ft of leveloff I checked a frequency on the chart to make sure I was headed in the right direction. The sun was exceptionally bright and blinding me slightly. This caused me to take a little longer finding the information. I was through checking for the frequency at the same time we heard 'traffic' from the TCASII. I looked at the TCASII and altimeter and saw plane (Y) at the same time as we were just then going through FL280. The other plane (Y) was coming from left to right at FL290. I rolled the pitch command on the autoplt to the descent range immediately. The captain did not realize I was using the autoplt to descend. At about 28250 ft we heard 'monitor vertical speed' from the TCASII. The captain said to get the autoplt off then he grabbed the yoke and kicked off the autoplt and pushed hard on the yoke. When the autoplt kicked off it caused a slight pitch up again. I was also holding the yoke at this time. At this time we also heard 'descend, descend' from the TCASII. At this point I could visually see that we were in no danger of coming any closer to the other aircraft (Y), our maximum altitude was 28300 ft, and the other aircraft (Y) was almost directly overhead. I returned our aircraft (X) to FL280 and continued the flight. The approaching aircraft at FL290 was not pointed out to us by ATC.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ALT OVERSHOOT IN CLB FOR ACR FLT RESULTS IN LOSS OF SEPARATION AND A TCASII RESPONSE.
Narrative: WE WERE GIVEN FL280 TO LEVELOFF. WITHIN 1000 FT OF LEVELOFF I CHKED A FREQ ON THE CHART TO MAKE SURE I WAS HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. THE SUN WAS EXCEPTIONALLY BRIGHT AND BLINDING ME SLIGHTLY. THIS CAUSED ME TO TAKE A LITTLE LONGER FINDING THE INFO. I WAS THROUGH CHKING FOR THE FREQ AT THE SAME TIME WE HEARD 'TFC' FROM THE TCASII. I LOOKED AT THE TCASII AND ALTIMETER AND SAW PLANE (Y) AT THE SAME TIME AS WE WERE JUST THEN GOING THROUGH FL280. THE OTHER PLANE (Y) WAS COMING FROM L TO R AT FL290. I ROLLED THE PITCH COMMAND ON THE AUTOPLT TO THE DSCNT RANGE IMMEDIATELY. THE CAPT DID NOT REALIZE I WAS USING THE AUTOPLT TO DSND. AT ABOUT 28250 FT WE HEARD 'MONITOR VERT SPD' FROM THE TCASII. THE CAPT SAID TO GET THE AUTOPLT OFF THEN HE GRABBED THE YOKE AND KICKED OFF THE AUTOPLT AND PUSHED HARD ON THE YOKE. WHEN THE AUTOPLT KICKED OFF IT CAUSED A SLIGHT PITCH UP AGAIN. I WAS ALSO HOLDING THE YOKE AT THIS TIME. AT THIS TIME WE ALSO HEARD 'DSND, DSND' FROM THE TCASII. AT THIS POINT I COULD VISUALLY SEE THAT WE WERE IN NO DANGER OF COMING ANY CLOSER TO THE OTHER ACFT (Y), OUR MAX ALT WAS 28300 FT, AND THE OTHER ACFT (Y) WAS ALMOST DIRECTLY OVERHEAD. I RETURNED OUR ACFT (X) TO FL280 AND CONTINUED THE FLT. THE APCHING ACFT AT FL290 WAS NOT POINTED OUT TO US BY ATC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.