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Attributes | |
ACN | 466269 |
Time | |
Date | 200003 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : las.airport |
State Reference | NV |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : las.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-300 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi landing : roll |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : las.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff ground : takeoff roll |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 190 flight time total : 5700 flight time type : 3600 |
ASRS Report | 466269 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 4000 flight time type : 1500 |
ASRS Report | 465682 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : ground critical incursion : runway non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : investigated faa : reviewed incident with flight crew other other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 75 vertical : 250 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Environmental Factor ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
We flew a visual approach to runway 25L las. First officer was flying. After uneventful landing, first officer exited runway at intersection A6. As we were exiting at intersection A6, las tower cleared us to cross runway 25R at intersection A6 and then to ground. I (captain) read back the clearance, took control of the aircraft and proceeded to taxi across runway 25R. First officer cleared us to the right. As our aircraft approached the runway 25R surface (crossed onto runway 25R approximately 10-15 ft) first officer said there was an aircraft coming toward us and to hurry across! I looked to the right as I added power to expedite across. I observed an aircraft on runway 25R about 2000 ft down the runway. The aircraft had just rotated and was approximately 10-20 ft in the air. I continued to expedite across runway 25R and then I contacted tower. I asked them what had happened, and told them that they cleared us across the runway as another aircraft was on its takeoff roll. The tower agreed. I taxied to the gate and shut down. In operations, I talked to the las tower supervisor. He said that indeed it was their mistake and apologized. He said they would be reviewing the tapes/recordings and would be going through their procedures. I called our dispatch and operations duty manager at our headquarters. He made the appropriate calls to other departments. He then called back to las and informed me that it was ok to continue if we felt ok to continue. We subsequently flew 2 more legs to finish the trip. This runway incursion occurred due to controller error. The sun was setting in the west at the time of the incident. The first officer was not able to pick up aircraft Y's motion until we had taxied onto runway 25R. He thought the aircraft was in position and hold. This may have been due to the distance/sun angle. I've been searching for ways in which this could have been prevented. The motion of an aircraft nose-on is hard to pick up at these distances. ATC tower controllers frequently taxi aircraft across runways with other aircraft in position. These aircraft usually have some, if not all, of their exterior lights on. Fortunately, this incident did not result in any injuries. Supplemental information from acn 465682: as we approached runway 25R, I cleared the runway. I did see an aircraft in the distance in what appeared to be in takeoff position, but saw no movement. As we crossed the first 1/4 of the runway, I noticed slow movement of the aircraft. For a split second, I thought that maybe the aircraft had just landed, and was going to turn off at the next taxiway. At about 1/2 way across the runway, I noticed the nose rotate, and I told the captain to hurry across. The takeoff aircraft passed behind us and about 200-300 ft in the air. Possible solution: devise some way to tell if an aircraft is in position and hold, taking off, or landing rollout -- ie, flashing lights, colored lights, etc.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B737-300 FLT IS NARROWLY MISSED BY ANOTHER ACR ACFT ON ITS TKOF ROTATION ON RWY 25R AT LAS, NV.
Narrative: WE FLEW A VISUAL APCH TO RWY 25L LAS. FO WAS FLYING. AFTER UNEVENTFUL LNDG, FO EXITED RWY AT INTXN A6. AS WE WERE EXITING AT INTXN A6, LAS TWR CLRED US TO CROSS RWY 25R AT INTXN A6 AND THEN TO GND. I (CAPT) READ BACK THE CLRNC, TOOK CTL OF THE ACFT AND PROCEEDED TO TAXI ACROSS RWY 25R. FO CLRED US TO THE R. AS OUR ACFT APCHED THE RWY 25R SURFACE (CROSSED ONTO RWY 25R APPROX 10-15 FT) FO SAID THERE WAS AN ACFT COMING TOWARD US AND TO HURRY ACROSS! I LOOKED TO THE R AS I ADDED PWR TO EXPEDITE ACROSS. I OBSERVED AN ACFT ON RWY 25R ABOUT 2000 FT DOWN THE RWY. THE ACFT HAD JUST ROTATED AND WAS APPROX 10-20 FT IN THE AIR. I CONTINUED TO EXPEDITE ACROSS RWY 25R AND THEN I CONTACTED TWR. I ASKED THEM WHAT HAD HAPPENED, AND TOLD THEM THAT THEY CLRED US ACROSS THE RWY AS ANOTHER ACFT WAS ON ITS TKOF ROLL. THE TWR AGREED. I TAXIED TO THE GATE AND SHUT DOWN. IN OPS, I TALKED TO THE LAS TWR SUPVR. HE SAID THAT INDEED IT WAS THEIR MISTAKE AND APOLOGIZED. HE SAID THEY WOULD BE REVIEWING THE TAPES/RECORDINGS AND WOULD BE GOING THROUGH THEIR PROCS. I CALLED OUR DISPATCH AND OPS DUTY MGR AT OUR HEADQUARTERS. HE MADE THE APPROPRIATE CALLS TO OTHER DEPTS. HE THEN CALLED BACK TO LAS AND INFORMED ME THAT IT WAS OK TO CONTINUE IF WE FELT OK TO CONTINUE. WE SUBSEQUENTLY FLEW 2 MORE LEGS TO FINISH THE TRIP. THIS RWY INCURSION OCCURRED DUE TO CTLR ERROR. THE SUN WAS SETTING IN THE W AT THE TIME OF THE INCIDENT. THE FO WAS NOT ABLE TO PICK UP ACFT Y'S MOTION UNTIL WE HAD TAXIED ONTO RWY 25R. HE THOUGHT THE ACFT WAS IN POS AND HOLD. THIS MAY HAVE BEEN DUE TO THE DISTANCE/SUN ANGLE. I'VE BEEN SEARCHING FOR WAYS IN WHICH THIS COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED. THE MOTION OF AN ACFT NOSE-ON IS HARD TO PICK UP AT THESE DISTANCES. ATC TWR CTLRS FREQUENTLY TAXI ACFT ACROSS RWYS WITH OTHER ACFT IN POS. THESE ACFT USUALLY HAVE SOME, IF NOT ALL, OF THEIR EXTERIOR LIGHTS ON. FORTUNATELY, THIS INCIDENT DID NOT RESULT IN ANY INJURIES. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 465682: AS WE APCHED RWY 25R, I CLRED THE RWY. I DID SEE AN ACFT IN THE DISTANCE IN WHAT APPEARED TO BE IN TKOF POS, BUT SAW NO MOVEMENT. AS WE CROSSED THE FIRST 1/4 OF THE RWY, I NOTICED SLOW MOVEMENT OF THE ACFT. FOR A SPLIT SECOND, I THOUGHT THAT MAYBE THE ACFT HAD JUST LANDED, AND WAS GOING TO TURN OFF AT THE NEXT TXWY. AT ABOUT 1/2 WAY ACROSS THE RWY, I NOTICED THE NOSE ROTATE, AND I TOLD THE CAPT TO HURRY ACROSS. THE TKOF ACFT PASSED BEHIND US AND ABOUT 200-300 FT IN THE AIR. POSSIBLE SOLUTION: DEVISE SOME WAY TO TELL IF AN ACFT IS IN POS AND HOLD, TAKING OFF, OR LNDG ROLLOUT -- IE, FLASHING LIGHTS, COLORED LIGHTS, ETC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.