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Attributes | |
ACN | 472416 |
Time | |
Date | 200005 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : cvg.airport |
State Reference | KY |
Altitude | msl single value : 10000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Weather Elements | Turbulence |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : cvg.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Regional Jet 200 ER&LR |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : vacating altitude |
Route In Use | arrival : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 6500 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 472416 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical other anomaly |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : lav smoke detector other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : declared emergency flight crew : landed in emergency condition other |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Aircraft |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Narrative:
Descending through approximately 10000 ft, the air conditioning packs were transferred to the APU. Shortly after that the cockpit crew smelled smoke. Approximately 30 seconds after smelling smoke we received a 'smoke toilet' caution message. The flight attendant was immediately notified of the situation. The QRH procedure was followed for the caution message. The flight attendant then notified us that the lav smoke alarm was sounding but there was no sign of burning except for a 'faint wispy smoke' in the cabin. The air conditioning packs were transferred to the engine bleed air and the APU was shut down. An emergency was declared and we were immediately cleared directly to the airport (cvg). A normal landing was made with all normal checklists as well as QRH procedures being accomplished. We taxied to the gate and were met by crash fire rescue equipment. This seems to be a recurring problem with the CL65-200. It seems that occasionally when the packs are being run by the engines then transferred to the APU, the APU contaminates cabin air with turbine oil smoke. My main concern in dealing with this emergency, since we did not know what or where the smoke was coming from, was getting the aircraft on the ground as soon as possible. CRM really helped in dealing with this emergency. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter said that it is normal procedure to start the APU and use it as a bleed source for air conditioning during the approach phase of flight to provide adequate cooling when reduced thrust settings on the engine would not. It is common to smell oil smoke for a very short time after the switch of the bleed source, but there is usually no visible smoke and it clears quickly. He reports that there have been three instances at his company of similar smoke in the cabin problems associated with the switch to APU bleed source in the last year. In one instance, the smoke was thick enough to require at least one crew member to be hospitalized for observation. His conversation with mechanics after the incident revealed that this problem is more common after APU servicing. They report that there are several aircraft in the fleet that are worse than others, but they have not found the exact cause yet. The reporter has followed up with the safety representative of his union who is also looking into this recurring problem.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CREW OF CL65-200 HAS SMOKE IN CABIN AND COCKPIT AFTER SHIFTING AIR CONDITIONING BLEED SOURCE TO APU DURING APCH PHASE OF FLT PER COMPANY PROC.
Narrative: DESCENDING THROUGH APPROX 10000 FT, THE AIR CONDITIONING PACKS WERE TRANSFERRED TO THE APU. SHORTLY AFTER THAT THE COCKPIT CREW SMELLED SMOKE. APPROX 30 SECONDS AFTER SMELLING SMOKE WE RECEIVED A 'SMOKE TOILET' CAUTION MESSAGE. THE FLT ATTENDANT WAS IMMEDIATELY NOTIFIED OF THE SIT. THE QRH PROC WAS FOLLOWED FOR THE CAUTION MESSAGE. THE FLT ATTENDANT THEN NOTIFIED US THAT THE LAV SMOKE ALARM WAS SOUNDING BUT THERE WAS NO SIGN OF BURNING EXCEPT FOR A 'FAINT WISPY SMOKE' IN THE CABIN. THE AIR CONDITIONING PACKS WERE TRANSFERRED TO THE ENG BLEED AIR AND THE APU WAS SHUT DOWN. AN EMER WAS DECLARED AND WE WERE IMMEDIATELY CLEARED DIRECTLY TO THE ARPT (CVG). A NORMAL LNDG WAS MADE WITH ALL NORMAL CHECKLISTS AS WELL AS QRH PROCS BEING ACCOMPLISHED. WE TAXIED TO THE GATE AND WERE MET BY CFR. THIS SEEMS TO BE A RECURRING PROB WITH THE CL65-200. IT SEEMS THAT OCCASIONALLY WHEN THE PACKS ARE BEING RUN BY THE ENGINES THEN TRANSFERRED TO THE APU, THE APU CONTAMINATES CABIN AIR WITH TURBINE OIL SMOKE. MY MAIN CONCERN IN DEALING WITH THIS EMER, SINCE WE DID NOT KNOW WHAT OR WHERE THE SMOKE WAS COMING FROM, WAS GETTING THE ACFT ON THE GND ASAP. CRM REALLY HELPED IN DEALING WITH THIS EMER. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR SAID THAT IT IS NORMAL PROC TO START THE APU AND USE IT AS A BLEED SOURCE FOR AIR CONDITIONING DURING THE APCH PHASE OF FLT TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE COOLING WHEN REDUCED THRUST SETTINGS ON THE ENG WOULD NOT. IT IS COMMON TO SMELL OIL SMOKE FOR A VERY SHORT TIME AFTER THE SWITCH OF THE BLEED SOURCE, BUT THERE IS USUALLY NO VISIBLE SMOKE AND IT CLEARS QUICKLY. HE REPORTS THAT THERE HAVE BEEN THREE INSTANCES AT HIS COMPANY OF SIMILAR SMOKE IN THE CABIN PROBS ASSOCIATED WITH THE SWITCH TO APU BLEED SOURCE IN THE LAST YEAR. IN ONE INSTANCE, THE SMOKE WAS THICK ENOUGH TO REQUIRE AT LEAST ONE CREW MEMBER TO BE HOSPITALIZED FOR OBSERVATION. HIS CONVERSATION WITH MECHANICS AFTER THE INCIDENT REVEALED THAT THIS PROB IS MORE COMMON AFTER APU SERVICING. THEY REPORT THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL ACFT IN THE FLEET THAT ARE WORSE THAN OTHERS, BUT THEY HAVE NOT FOUND THE EXACT CAUSE YET. THE RPTR HAS FOLLOWED UP WITH THE SAFETY REPRESENTATIVE OF HIS UNION WHO IS ALSO LOOKING INTO THIS RECURRING PROB.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.