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Attributes | |
ACN | 481500 |
Time | |
Date | 200008 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mem.airport |
State Reference | TN |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 24000 msl bound upper : 31000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zme.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise : enroute altitude change |
Route In Use | arrival star : holly |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 1200 |
ASRS Report | 481500 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : second officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 90 flight time total : 3500 flight time type : 1440 |
ASRS Report | 481511 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory controller : issued new clearance flight crew : returned to assigned altitude flight crew : returned to intended or assigned course |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Environmental Factor Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Approximately 130 NM east of mem at FL310 on holly 1 STAR, center called and the first couple words were weak. We understood ATC to say descend to FL240 and slow 20 KTS. The PNF replied to ATC, 'leaving FL310 for FL240 and slowing 20 KTS.' about 45 seconds later ATC asked us our altitude. We replied passing FL300 for FL240. ATC said they wanted us to turn to 240 degree heading and maintain FL310. In retrospect, we should have questioned the initial radio call and ATC should have caught our erred readback for the descent. Additionally, we were given the 240 degree heading in the same vicinity of a normal descent to FL240 (ie, a direct to FL240 is usually given at that position). Supplemental information from acn 481511: the captain was talking to center and copilot was flying. Captain asked the copilot if center said to descend to FL240 and he said 'yes.' so the captain called back, 'xyz out of FL310 for FL240 and slowing 20 KTS.' in retrospect, the captain should have queried ATC on his initial radio call. Additionally, ATC should have caught our readback as being in error until we stated that we were departing FL310 for FL240. A little static on the radio led to a misunderstanding.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B727 CREW STARTS A DSCNT FOR FL240 WHEN CLRED TO TURN TO 240 DEG HDG WHEN 130 MI E OF MEM, TN.
Narrative: APPROX 130 NM E OF MEM AT FL310 ON HOLLY 1 STAR, CTR CALLED AND THE FIRST COUPLE WORDS WERE WEAK. WE UNDERSTOOD ATC TO SAY DSND TO FL240 AND SLOW 20 KTS. THE PNF REPLIED TO ATC, 'LEAVING FL310 FOR FL240 AND SLOWING 20 KTS.' ABOUT 45 SECONDS LATER ATC ASKED US OUR ALT. WE REPLIED PASSING FL300 FOR FL240. ATC SAID THEY WANTED US TO TURN TO 240 DEG HDG AND MAINTAIN FL310. IN RETROSPECT, WE SHOULD HAVE QUESTIONED THE INITIAL RADIO CALL AND ATC SHOULD HAVE CAUGHT OUR ERRED READBACK FOR THE DSCNT. ADDITIONALLY, WE WERE GIVEN THE 240 DEG HDG IN THE SAME VICINITY OF A NORMAL DSCNT TO FL240 (IE, A DIRECT TO FL240 IS USUALLY GIVEN AT THAT POS). SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 481511: THE CAPT WAS TALKING TO CTR AND COPLT WAS FLYING. CAPT ASKED THE COPLT IF CTR SAID TO DSND TO FL240 AND HE SAID 'YES.' SO THE CAPT CALLED BACK, 'XYZ OUT OF FL310 FOR FL240 AND SLOWING 20 KTS.' IN RETROSPECT, THE CAPT SHOULD HAVE QUERIED ATC ON HIS INITIAL RADIO CALL. ADDITIONALLY, ATC SHOULD HAVE CAUGHT OUR READBACK AS BEING IN ERROR UNTIL WE STATED THAT WE WERE DEPARTING FL310 FOR FL240. A LITTLE STATIC ON THE RADIO LED TO A MISUNDERSTANDING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.