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Attributes | |
ACN | 486425 |
Time | |
Date | 200009 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ind.airport |
State Reference | IN |
Altitude | agl single value : 400 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : ind.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Route In Use | departure sid : dawnn two departure |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : private pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 4000 flight time type : 1500 |
ASRS Report | 486425 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
On takeoff, our clearance was 'cleared for takeoff on runway 23L, fly heading 210 degrees.' we turned to a heading of 210 degrees at 400 ft AGL as is standard at most airports when given a heading on takeoff. After further review of the departure procedures for the dawnn 2 departure, we believe we should have waited until 2.3 DME and 1200 ft prior to turning to a heading of 210 degrees. The dawnn 2 states 'climb on runway heading 227 degrees until ifvj 2.3 and 1200 ft or above, then fly assigned heading of 210 degrees, 227 degrees, or 242 degrees.' this is confusing since most of the time a heading cancels the departure procedures. We believe that if a different verbiage is used by tower like 'fly the dawnn 2 heading assigned is 210 degrees' it would clarify the clearance to follow.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737-200 CREW DEPARTING IND RWY 23L NOT SURE DEP PROC WAS FLOWN CORRECTLY.
Narrative: ON TKOF, OUR CLRNC WAS 'CLRED FOR TKOF ON RWY 23L, FLY HDG 210 DEGS.' WE TURNED TO A HDG OF 210 DEGS AT 400 FT AGL AS IS STANDARD AT MOST ARPTS WHEN GIVEN A HDG ON TKOF. AFTER FURTHER REVIEW OF THE DEP PROCS FOR THE DAWNN 2 DEP, WE BELIEVE WE SHOULD HAVE WAITED UNTIL 2.3 DME AND 1200 FT PRIOR TO TURNING TO A HDG OF 210 DEGS. THE DAWNN 2 STATES 'CLB ON RWY HDG 227 DEGS UNTIL IFVJ 2.3 AND 1200 FT OR ABOVE, THEN FLY ASSIGNED HDG OF 210 DEGS, 227 DEGS, OR 242 DEGS.' THIS IS CONFUSING SINCE MOST OF THE TIME A HDG CANCELS THE DEP PROCS. WE BELIEVE THAT IF A DIFFERENT VERBIAGE IS USED BY TWR LIKE 'FLY THE DAWNN 2 HDG ASSIGNED IS 210 DEGS' IT WOULD CLARIFY THE CLRNC TO FOLLOW.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.