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An air carrier flight crew flying B727 at lga reports confusion with clearance from ground control to taxi to gate then being advised by gate control that they should have been contacted before taxiing to the gate.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 488830 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200010 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lga.airport |
| State Reference | NY |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B727-200 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : lga.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : pushback |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 1400 |
| ASRS Report | 488830 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | ground encounters other non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory flight crew : became reoriented none taken : detected after the fact |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
After holding for gate at lga we were cleared to gate by ground control. After turning into ramp we noticed other aircraft were pushing off their gate. We stopped and contacted gate control and were told we should have contacted them first. I feel ground should tell you to contact gate control prior to clearing you to a gate and the gate control frequency should be published on the airport chart.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR FLC FLYING B727 AT LGA RPTS CONFUSION WITH CLRNC FROM GND CTL TO TAXI TO GATE THEN BEING ADVISED BY GATE CTL THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN CONTACTED BEFORE TAXIING TO THE GATE.
Narrative: AFTER HOLDING FOR GATE AT LGA WE WERE CLRED TO GATE BY GND CTL. AFTER TURNING INTO RAMP WE NOTICED OTHER ACFT WERE PUSHING OFF THEIR GATE. WE STOPPED AND CONTACTED GATE CTL AND WERE TOLD WE SHOULD HAVE CONTACTED THEM FIRST. I FEEL GND SHOULD TELL YOU TO CONTACT GATE CTL PRIOR TO CLRING YOU TO A GATE AND THE GATE CTL FREQ SHOULD BE PUBLISHED ON THE ARPT CHART.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.