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Attributes | |
ACN | 492052 |
Time | |
Date | 200011 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : pym.airport |
State Reference | MA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 4000 msl bound upper : 5000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : k90.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Cessna 402/402C/B379 Businessliner/Utiliner |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Navigation In Use | other vortac |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | observation : company check pilot oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 7000 |
ASRS Report | 492052 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllerb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : returned to assigned altitude |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Company Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance Aircraft |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was conducting IOE with a candidate who was almost finished. He was on his 4TH day, and I had flown with him before. He was very good. I guess I let my guard down a little. We were flying a CE402 using a portable intercom which, when he, the pilot, transmitted I could not hear what he said. We were flying from mvy-bos for the second time that day. We had received a clearance to 2000 ft from the tower, to expect 4000 ft. Before we left mvy had discussed the possibility that we would climb to 5000 ft to do the ILS runway 15R circle runway 4L in bos. Using 2ND transponder as altitude reminder, which I do whenever one is available. (No altitude alerters in CE402's.) departed mvy initial clearance 2000 ft expect 4000 ft in 10. Cape departure cleared us to an altitude. Pilot acknowledged (I couldn't hear what he acknowledged), and put 5000 ft in the #2 transponder. I did not question this. I assumed he had been cleared to 5000 ft, no reason to believe otherwise, competent guy and we had reason to believe 5000 ft was a possibility given the runways and approachs in use in bos. After we had been level at 5000 ft for about 2 or 3 mins, cape asked what our altitude and pilot replied 5000 ft. Cape said descend immediately to 4000 ft, that was your clearance. Pilot descended. I called cape on the phone later and they said not to worry there had not been a conflict. Pilot and I discussed how this happened, he had been accustomed to using the fixed compass card on ADF as an altitude reminder but now was trying to adapt to using 2ND transponder. He had put 5000 ft in just as a possibility for later but had 4000 ft in the ADF card. He was trying to do it 'my way.' I believe the fact that the aircraft had no installed intercom, was a huge contributing factor in that the portable one made it impossible for me to hear the pilot's radio xmissions. Also that the pilot was very good and I had let my guard down somewhat. It's really not possible to ask the guy to repeat each acknowledgement he has made on the radio to ATC over the intercom so I can maintain surveillance.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ALTDEV DURING IOE IN AN ACFT WITH LIMITED INTERCOM AND ALT ALERTING CAPABILITY.
Narrative: I WAS CONDUCTING IOE WITH A CANDIDATE WHO WAS ALMOST FINISHED. HE WAS ON HIS 4TH DAY, AND I HAD FLOWN WITH HIM BEFORE. HE WAS VERY GOOD. I GUESS I LET MY GUARD DOWN A LITTLE. WE WERE FLYING A CE402 USING A PORTABLE INTERCOM WHICH, WHEN HE, THE PLT, XMITTED I COULD NOT HEAR WHAT HE SAID. WE WERE FLYING FROM MVY-BOS FOR THE SECOND TIME THAT DAY. WE HAD RECEIVED A CLRNC TO 2000 FT FROM THE TWR, TO EXPECT 4000 FT. BEFORE WE LEFT MVY HAD DISCUSSED THE POSSIBILITY THAT WE WOULD CLB TO 5000 FT TO DO THE ILS RWY 15R CIRCLE RWY 4L IN BOS. USING 2ND XPONDER AS ALT REMINDER, WHICH I DO WHENEVER ONE IS AVAILABLE. (NO ALT ALERTERS IN CE402'S.) DEPARTED MVY INITIAL CLRNC 2000 FT EXPECT 4000 FT IN 10. CAPE DEP CLRED US TO AN ALT. PLT ACKNOWLEDGED (I COULDN'T HEAR WHAT HE ACKNOWLEDGED), AND PUT 5000 FT IN THE #2 XPONDER. I DID NOT QUESTION THIS. I ASSUMED HE HAD BEEN CLRED TO 5000 FT, NO REASON TO BELIEVE OTHERWISE, COMPETENT GUY AND WE HAD REASON TO BELIEVE 5000 FT WAS A POSSIBILITY GIVEN THE RWYS AND APCHS IN USE IN BOS. AFTER WE HAD BEEN LEVEL AT 5000 FT FOR ABOUT 2 OR 3 MINS, CAPE ASKED WHAT OUR ALT AND PLT REPLIED 5000 FT. CAPE SAID DSND IMMEDIATELY TO 4000 FT, THAT WAS YOUR CLRNC. PLT DSNDED. I CALLED CAPE ON THE PHONE LATER AND THEY SAID NOT TO WORRY THERE HAD NOT BEEN A CONFLICT. PLT AND I DISCUSSED HOW THIS HAPPENED, HE HAD BEEN ACCUSTOMED TO USING THE FIXED COMPASS CARD ON ADF AS AN ALT REMINDER BUT NOW WAS TRYING TO ADAPT TO USING 2ND XPONDER. HE HAD PUT 5000 FT IN JUST AS A POSSIBILITY FOR LATER BUT HAD 4000 FT IN THE ADF CARD. HE WAS TRYING TO DO IT 'MY WAY.' I BELIEVE THE FACT THAT THE ACFT HAD NO INSTALLED INTERCOM, WAS A HUGE CONTRIBUTING FACTOR IN THAT THE PORTABLE ONE MADE IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR ME TO HEAR THE PLT'S RADIO XMISSIONS. ALSO THAT THE PLT WAS VERY GOOD AND I HAD LET MY GUARD DOWN SOMEWHAT. IT'S REALLY NOT POSSIBLE TO ASK THE GUY TO REPEAT EACH ACKNOWLEDGEMENT HE HAS MADE ON THE RADIO TO ATC OVER THE INTERCOM SO I CAN MAINTAIN SURVEILLANCE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.