A B757-200 flight crew encounters a delayed climb situation departing the ZNY area southeast of sie,...

Attributes
ACN	493180
Time
Date	200011
Day	Mon
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	navaid : sie.vortac
State Reference	NJ
Altitude	msl bound lower : 23000 msl bound upper : 28000
Environment
Flight Conditions	IMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	artcc : zny.artcc tower : maf.tower
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	B757-200
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Navigation In Use	other other vortac
Flight Phase	climbout : intermediate altitude
Route In Use	departure sid : ns
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 236 flight time total : 5200 flight time type : 1400
ASRS Report	493180
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 220 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 220
ASRS Report	493183
Events
Anomaly	conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	controller : issued new clearance controller : issued advisory
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Flight Crew Human Performance Airspace Structure ATC Human Performance
Primary Problem	ATC Human Performance

Narrative:

During climb out/initial cruise, departing phl for sju, we were told by ZNY to climb to FL230 before crossing sie, to which we complied. We were expecting a higher altitude assignment when we were handed off to the next controller just east of sie. The next controller cleared us direct didle, a slight rerte. When the captain told him we were 'level at FL230, requesting higher,' the controller commented that we should already have vacated FL230 for FL280 and that we had crossing traffic ahead. We immediately climbed to FL280. Either we didn't hear the clearance or the controller forgot to tell us. There was no TCASII event. Supplemental information from acn 493183: we stated we had not been cleared above FL230. He then cleared us to FL280. We don't know how this happened. The controller evidently missed my check-in altitude call.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: A B757-200 FLC ENCOUNTERS A DELAYED CLB SIT DEPARTING THE ZNY AREA SE OF SIE, NJ.

Narrative: DURING CLBOUT/INITIAL CRUISE, DEPARTING PHL FOR SJU, WE WERE TOLD BY ZNY TO CLB TO FL230 BEFORE XING SIE, TO WHICH WE COMPLIED. WE WERE EXPECTING A HIGHER ALT ASSIGNMENT WHEN WE WERE HANDED OFF TO THE NEXT CTLR JUST E OF SIE. THE NEXT CTLR CLRED US DIRECT DIDLE, A SLIGHT RERTE. WHEN THE CAPT TOLD HIM WE WERE 'LEVEL AT FL230, REQUESTING HIGHER,' THE CTLR COMMENTED THAT WE SHOULD ALREADY HAVE VACATED FL230 FOR FL280 AND THAT WE HAD XING TFC AHEAD. WE IMMEDIATELY CLBED TO FL280. EITHER WE DIDN'T HEAR THE CLRNC OR THE CTLR FORGOT TO TELL US. THERE WAS NO TCASII EVENT. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 493183: WE STATED WE HAD NOT BEEN CLRED ABOVE FL230. HE THEN CLRED US TO FL280. WE DON'T KNOW HOW THIS HAPPENED. THE CTLR EVIDENTLY MISSED MY CHK-IN ALT CALL.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

A B757-200 flight crew encounters a delayed climb situation departing the ZNY area southeast of sie, nj.