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Attributes | |
ACN | 494190 |
Time | |
Date | 200011 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : boi.airport |
State Reference | ID |
Altitude | msl single value : 3500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : boi.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | approach : traffic pattern arrival : vfr |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : second officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : multi engine pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 600 |
ASRS Report | 494190 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to assigned altitude |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were cleared for a visual approach. We were on a left downwind with the first officer flying. ATC requested us to maintain 3500 ft until final. As the first officer initiated the turn to the base leg, he began to descend from the 3500 ft altitude. I reminded him of the need to maintain 3500 ft until final and he corrected. Shortly afterwards, he began a very shallow turn to final and because we were high he began a slow descent. After landing, ATC reminded us of the 3500 ft restr and informed us it was because of noise. Our engines were at idle, but the problem arose as a result of the first officer being unable to judge his distance from the field accurately since he sits on the right and was turning left. It was compounded by not flying a more square pattern and extending the downwind leg to a point where our distance and altitude would allow a more normal descent and allow us to maintain the 3500 ft until established on the final.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FO OF A B727 DSNDED BELOW ASSIGNED APCH ALT DURING TURN TO BASE AND FINAL PRIOR TO BEING CLRED FOR THE APCH CONTRARY TO NOISE ABATEMENT PROCS.
Narrative: WE WERE CLRED FOR A VISUAL APCH. WE WERE ON A L DOWNWIND WITH THE FO FLYING. ATC REQUESTED US TO MAINTAIN 3500 FT UNTIL FINAL. AS THE FO INITIATED THE TURN TO THE BASE LEG, HE BEGAN TO DSND FROM THE 3500 FT ALT. I REMINDED HIM OF THE NEED TO MAINTAIN 3500 FT UNTIL FINAL AND HE CORRECTED. SHORTLY AFTERWARDS, HE BEGAN A VERY SHALLOW TURN TO FINAL AND BECAUSE WE WERE HIGH HE BEGAN A SLOW DSCNT. AFTER LNDG, ATC REMINDED US OF THE 3500 FT RESTR AND INFORMED US IT WAS BECAUSE OF NOISE. OUR ENGS WERE AT IDLE, BUT THE PROB AROSE AS A RESULT OF THE FO BEING UNABLE TO JUDGE HIS DISTANCE FROM THE FIELD ACCURATELY SINCE HE SITS ON THE R AND WAS TURNING L. IT WAS COMPOUNDED BY NOT FLYING A MORE SQUARE PATTERN AND EXTENDING THE DOWNWIND LEG TO A POINT WHERE OUR DISTANCE AND ALT WOULD ALLOW A MORE NORMAL DSCNT AND ALLOW US TO MAINTAIN THE 3500 FT UNTIL ESTABLISHED ON THE FINAL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.