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Flight crew of a B737-300 forgot to contact tower due to distraction of discussing tailwind on final with approach control.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 494680 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200012 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : bur.airport |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : sct.tracon tower : bur.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B737-300 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 8 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : roll |
| Route In Use | arrival : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 260 flight time total : 23000 flight time type : 14000 |
| ASRS Report | 494680 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | incursion : landing without clearance non adherence : clearance non adherence : far |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Approach gave us a clearance to fly 110 degrees, maintain 4000 ft till established cleared for the ILS runway 8 approach. We were at 180 KTS, flaps 10 degrees. Crossing vny, we configured and noticed that we had a 14 KT tailwind. As we slowed to approach speed, we discussed the wind -- at 500 ft it was still 14 KTS. I asked for IRS (indicated reference speed) winds over the numbers. The tailwind had dissipated. When we arrived at the gate, we realized we were on approach frequency. We called ground and talked with them about it. We also realized that approach control didn't switch us to tower. ILS approach clearance during night VMC, no visibility restrs with a tailwind aloft. We heard approach talking to other aircraft. We just plain missed going to tower.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF A B737-300 FORGOT TO CONTACT TOWER DUE TO DISTR OF DISCUSSING TAILWIND ON FINAL WITH APCH CTL.
Narrative: APCH GAVE US A CLRNC TO FLY 110 DEGS, MAINTAIN 4000 FT TILL ESTABLISHED CLRED FOR THE ILS RWY 8 APCH. WE WERE AT 180 KTS, FLAPS 10 DEGS. XING VNY, WE CONFIGURED AND NOTICED THAT WE HAD A 14 KT TAILWIND. AS WE SLOWED TO APCH SPD, WE DISCUSSED THE WIND -- AT 500 FT IT WAS STILL 14 KTS. I ASKED FOR IRS (INDICATED REF SPEED) WINDS OVER THE NUMBERS. THE TAILWIND HAD DISSIPATED. WHEN WE ARRIVED AT THE GATE, WE REALIZED WE WERE ON APCH FREQ. WE CALLED GND AND TALKED WITH THEM ABOUT IT. WE ALSO REALIZED THAT APCH CTL DIDN'T SWITCH US TO TWR. ILS APCH CLRNC DURING NIGHT VMC, NO VISIBILITY RESTRS WITH A TAILWIND ALOFT. WE HEARD APCH TALKING TO OTHER ACFT. WE JUST PLAIN MISSED GOING TO TWR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.