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Attributes | |
ACN | 501168 |
Time | |
Date | 200102 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : x47.airport |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Amateur (Home) Built |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | ground : takeoff roll ground : position and hold |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | landing : roll |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 20 flight time total : 1200 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 501168 |
Person 2 | |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne critical non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 75 vertical : 50 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Environment: good VFR, busy non-controled airport (X47) with multiple aircraft in pattern, multiple planes waiting for takeoff on runway 24. Student pilot activity. Banner towing training activity just north or runway 24. Situation: after waiting for multiple aircraft in pattern to land, a break occurrence after a tail dragger landed. I checked to see that no one was on base announced that I was taking position and hold on runway 24, until the tail dragger cleared the runway. He took his time clearing, and I announced 'aircraft X rolling on 24, wbound departure.' was accelerating down the runway, when shadow appeared overhead a cessna 172 passed 30 - 40 ft overhead and landed right in front of me. I closed throttle, braked and aborted takeoff. Cessna exited and parked near banner towing operation. I asked if he saw me on the takeoff roll. After a few seconds of radio silence, he called back 'yeah, I saw you.' impression: disregard of far's and basic airmanship of cessna? Perhaps hot rodding for his friends on ground? Perhaps in too much of a hurry to consider going around when departure were held up by slow roll-out of tail dragger? My lesson: 'position and holding' at a non-tower airport. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter stated the incident was reviewed with his pilot group at his home base. He said the group consensus was that pilots should not taxi into position and hold until the runway is clear of landing aircraft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AT AN UNCTLED ARPT A C-172 LANDS OVER A LNC-4 HOLDING IN POS FOR TFC TO CLR.
Narrative: ENVIRONMENT: GOOD VFR, BUSY NON-CTLED ARPT (X47) WITH MULTIPLE ACFT IN PATTERN, MULTIPLE PLANES WAITING FOR TKOF ON RWY 24. STUDENT PLT ACTIVITY. BANNER TOWING TRAINING ACTIVITY JUST N OR RWY 24. SIT: AFTER WAITING FOR MULTIPLE ACFT IN PATTERN TO LAND, A BREAK OCCURRENCE AFTER A TAIL DRAGGER LANDED. I CHKED TO SEE THAT NO ONE WAS ON BASE ANNOUNCED THAT I WAS TAKING POS AND HOLD ON RWY 24, UNTIL THE TAIL DRAGGER CLRED THE RWY. HE TOOK HIS TIME CLRING, AND I ANNOUNCED 'ACFT X ROLLING ON 24, WBOUND DEP.' WAS ACCELERATING DOWN THE RWY, WHEN SHADOW APPEARED OVERHEAD A CESSNA 172 PASSED 30 - 40 FT OVERHEAD AND LANDED RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME. I CLOSED THROTTLE, BRAKED AND ABORTED TKOF. CESSNA EXITED AND PARKED NEAR BANNER TOWING OP. I ASKED IF HE SAW ME ON THE TKOF ROLL. AFTER A FEW SECS OF RADIO SILENCE, HE CALLED BACK 'YEAH, I SAW YOU.' IMPRESSION: DISREGARD OF FAR'S AND BASIC AIRMANSHIP OF CESSNA? PERHAPS HOT RODDING FOR HIS FRIENDS ON GND? PERHAPS IN TOO MUCH OF A HURRY TO CONSIDER GOING AROUND WHEN DEP WERE HELD UP BY SLOW ROLL-OUT OF TAIL DRAGGER? MY LESSON: 'POS AND HOLDING' AT A NON-TWR ARPT. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR STATED THE INCIDENT WAS REVIEWED WITH HIS PLT GROUP AT HIS HOME BASE. HE SAID THE GROUP CONSENSUS WAS THAT PLTS SHOULD NOT TAXI INTO POS AND HOLD UNTIL THE RWY IS CLEAR OF LNDG ACFT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.