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Attributes | |
ACN | 504020 |
Time | |
Date | 200103 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sfo.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2000 msl bound upper : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : o90.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : charter |
Make Model Name | B727-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 129 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 28l |
Flight Phase | descent : vacating altitude descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual arrival star : big sur 2 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : charter |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 504020 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : charter |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance non adherence : company policies non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert controller : issued new clearance flight crew : returned to assigned altitude none taken : detected after the fact |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Airspace Structure |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
While executing 'bigsur 2 arrival' at sfo, were cleared for the quiet bridge visual approach runway 28L. Normally, this clearance is issued near menlo intersection. This time, however, it was given shortly after boldr intersection. With clear sky and visibility +10 mi, I continued descending gradually so as to cross bridge intersection (FAF) at 1900 ft. We were calm and ease in a perfect clear day, looking around for VFR traffic, when ATC called us requesting climb to 3000 ft. At that time we were level at 2000 ft, short of the final approach course. I believe it would work much better for all concerned and will improve safety if, after issuing the above mentioned clearance for the visual approach, controllers would simply add 'maintain 5000 ft to menlo, cleared for the approach.' this will keep pilots aware of the type 'B' space environment and will alert them of the MCA at menlo intersection.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B727-200 CREW FLEW BELOW SFO CLASS B AIRSPACE ON THE QUIET BRIDGE APCH TO SFO.
Narrative: WHILE EXECUTING 'BIGSUR 2 ARR' AT SFO, WERE CLRED FOR THE QUIET BRIDGE VISUAL APCH RWY 28L. NORMALLY, THIS CLRNC IS ISSUED NEAR MENLO INTXN. THIS TIME, HOWEVER, IT WAS GIVEN SHORTLY AFTER BOLDR INTXN. WITH CLR SKY AND VISIBILITY +10 MI, I CONTINUED DSNDING GRADUALLY SO AS TO CROSS BRIDGE INTXN (FAF) AT 1900 FT. WE WERE CALM AND EASE IN A PERFECT CLR DAY, LOOKING AROUND FOR VFR TFC, WHEN ATC CALLED US REQUESTING CLB TO 3000 FT. AT THAT TIME WE WERE LEVEL AT 2000 FT, SHORT OF THE FINAL APCH COURSE. I BELIEVE IT WOULD WORK MUCH BETTER FOR ALL CONCERNED AND WILL IMPROVE SAFETY IF, AFTER ISSUING THE ABOVE MENTIONED CLRNC FOR THE VISUAL APCH, CTLRS WOULD SIMPLY ADD 'MAINTAIN 5000 FT TO MENLO, CLRED FOR THE APCH.' THIS WILL KEEP PLTS AWARE OF THE TYPE 'B' SPACE ENVIRONMENT AND WILL ALERT THEM OF THE MCA AT MENLO INTXN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.