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Attributes | |
ACN | 508083 |
Time | |
Date | 200104 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dfw.airport |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl single value : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : d10.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Fokker 100 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer only : 35c |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : d10.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : straight in |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 3500 flight time type : 300 |
ASRS Report | 508083 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar aircraft equipment : tcas other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory flight crew : became reoriented flight crew : overrode automation flight crew : returned to intended or assigned course |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were arriving into dfw via the bonham 3 STAR. At stonz intersection, we were given a heading of 180 degrees and the STAR speed of 210 KTS. This put us on a downwind for landing north at dfw. We were told to expect runway 35C and the autoplt was on. We were given another descent and told to expect an 8 mi final, visual approach. A min or 2 later, we were given a heading of 270 degrees and descent to 4000 ft. This put us on a base leg to final. The approach frequency was busy as usual and we continued on our assigned heading and speed of 210 KTS while getting closer to the extended centerline. Approach told us to turn to a 290 degree heading and asked if we saw the airport. We told them yes and they cleared us for the visual approach to runway 35C. While this was happening. We were just to the right of the localizer. I selected 'land mode' to capture the localizer and I selected a lower airspeed. When the airplane captured the localizer, we had flown through it and was correcting back with a right turn. At this time, I turned off the autoplt and hand flew it back to the localizer. While we were correcting back due to our late clearance for the approach from the controller, we received a TA on TCASII off our left wing. The controller told us that there was a B737 established on final for runway 36L and for us to 'correct' back to the localizer for runway 35C. We replied that we were correcting and we proceeded to land with no other difficulties. This was a result of the controller giving us our clearance for a visual approach too close to the extended centerline. There was also a wind from the northeast that was blowing us across the localizer, and our airspeed still at the assigned 210 KTS. The controller did not take this into account. With that said, I could have done some things differently also. We could have asked for a slower airspeed, however, the frequency was very busy. Also, I should have turned off the autoplt earlier and hand flown the base leg. We would have still flown through the localizer, but we most likely would have made it back a little quicker. This is another example of a busy approach control, a late clearance, and flying the airplane with its automation instead of going back to basics and hand flying the tight approach. As I stated earlier, we landed with no problems, the B737 landed with no problems, and nothing else was said. We only received a TA on TCASII, never an RA.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: F100 FLC INITIATE EVASIVE MANEUVER AS DFW CTLR ADVISES FLC OF PARALLEL B737 TFC TO ANOTHER RWY DURING CLOSE TURN IN VISUAL APCH TO RWY 35C.
Narrative: WE WERE ARRIVING INTO DFW VIA THE BONHAM 3 STAR. AT STONZ INTXN, WE WERE GIVEN A HDG OF 180 DEGS AND THE STAR SPD OF 210 KTS. THIS PUT US ON A DOWNWIND FOR LNDG N AT DFW. WE WERE TOLD TO EXPECT RWY 35C AND THE AUTOPLT WAS ON. WE WERE GIVEN ANOTHER DSCNT AND TOLD TO EXPECT AN 8 MI FINAL, VISUAL APCH. A MIN OR 2 LATER, WE WERE GIVEN A HDG OF 270 DEGS AND DSCNT TO 4000 FT. THIS PUT US ON A BASE LEG TO FINAL. THE APCH FREQ WAS BUSY AS USUAL AND WE CONTINUED ON OUR ASSIGNED HDG AND SPD OF 210 KTS WHILE GETTING CLOSER TO THE EXTENDED CTRLINE. APCH TOLD US TO TURN TO A 290 DEG HDG AND ASKED IF WE SAW THE ARPT. WE TOLD THEM YES AND THEY CLRED US FOR THE VISUAL APCH TO RWY 35C. WHILE THIS WAS HAPPENING. WE WERE JUST TO THE R OF THE LOC. I SELECTED 'LAND MODE' TO CAPTURE THE LOC AND I SELECTED A LOWER AIRSPD. WHEN THE AIRPLANE CAPTURED THE LOC, WE HAD FLOWN THROUGH IT AND WAS CORRECTING BACK WITH A R TURN. AT THIS TIME, I TURNED OFF THE AUTOPLT AND HAND FLEW IT BACK TO THE LOC. WHILE WE WERE CORRECTING BACK DUE TO OUR LATE CLRNC FOR THE APCH FROM THE CTLR, WE RECEIVED A TA ON TCASII OFF OUR L WING. THE CTLR TOLD US THAT THERE WAS A B737 ESTABLISHED ON FINAL FOR RWY 36L AND FOR US TO 'CORRECT' BACK TO THE LOC FOR RWY 35C. WE REPLIED THAT WE WERE CORRECTING AND WE PROCEEDED TO LAND WITH NO OTHER DIFFICULTIES. THIS WAS A RESULT OF THE CTLR GIVING US OUR CLRNC FOR A VISUAL APCH TOO CLOSE TO THE EXTENDED CTRLINE. THERE WAS ALSO A WIND FROM THE NE THAT WAS BLOWING US ACROSS THE LOC, AND OUR AIRSPD STILL AT THE ASSIGNED 210 KTS. THE CTLR DID NOT TAKE THIS INTO ACCOUNT. WITH THAT SAID, I COULD HAVE DONE SOME THINGS DIFFERENTLY ALSO. WE COULD HAVE ASKED FOR A SLOWER AIRSPD, HOWEVER, THE FREQ WAS VERY BUSY. ALSO, I SHOULD HAVE TURNED OFF THE AUTOPLT EARLIER AND HAND FLOWN THE BASE LEG. WE WOULD HAVE STILL FLOWN THROUGH THE LOC, BUT WE MOST LIKELY WOULD HAVE MADE IT BACK A LITTLE QUICKER. THIS IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF A BUSY APCH CTL, A LATE CLRNC, AND FLYING THE AIRPLANE WITH ITS AUTOMATION INSTEAD OF GOING BACK TO BASICS AND HAND FLYING THE TIGHT APCH. AS I STATED EARLIER, WE LANDED WITH NO PROBS, THE B737 LANDED WITH NO PROBS, AND NOTHING ELSE WAS SAID. WE ONLY RECEIVED A TA ON TCASII, NEVER AN RA.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.