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Attributes | |
ACN | 508827 |
Time | |
Date | 200104 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ewr.airport |
State Reference | NT |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : ewr.tower artcc : eggx.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Transport, High Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | landing : roll landing : go around |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : ewr.tower |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer instruction : instructor oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 4000 flight time type : 2500 |
ASRS Report | 508827 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain instruction : trainee |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : executed go around flight crew : regained aircraft control |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew other other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
I was conducting IOE for an initial captain. The trainee bounced the landing and executed a go around, which was poor judgement on his part. There was also traffic arriving to an intersecting runway which we climbed over. The go around procedure itself was not very good. The FAA was also conducting an observation of this flight. They (fed) stated that the trainee did not pass his observation. I agreed that the trainee needed more IOE and was not ready for upgrade. Also, during the debrief, the fed asked a question about our route of flight. He suspected we may have been off course, but I am certain we were not. ATC never stated or advised we were off course. The fed also stated his headset was 'cutting out' periodically so he may have heard our clearance wrong.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ATR42 FLC ON LNDG RWY 11 CREATES A POTENTIAL CONFLICT WITH TFC ON APCH TO RWY 22 WHEN PERFORMING A GAR AFTER THE IOE TRAINEE CAPT BOUNCES THE LNDG AT EWR, NJ.
Narrative: I WAS CONDUCTING IOE FOR AN INITIAL CAPT. THE TRAINEE BOUNCED THE LNDG AND EXECUTED A GAR, WHICH WAS POOR JUDGEMENT ON HIS PART. THERE WAS ALSO TFC ARRIVING TO AN INTERSECTING RWY WHICH WE CLBED OVER. THE GAR PROC ITSELF WAS NOT VERY GOOD. THE FAA WAS ALSO CONDUCTING AN OBSERVATION OF THIS FLT. THEY (FED) STATED THAT THE TRAINEE DID NOT PASS HIS OBSERVATION. I AGREED THAT THE TRAINEE NEEDED MORE IOE AND WAS NOT READY FOR UPGRADE. ALSO, DURING THE DEBRIEF, THE FED ASKED A QUESTION ABOUT OUR RTE OF FLT. HE SUSPECTED WE MAY HAVE BEEN OFF COURSE, BUT I AM CERTAIN WE WERE NOT. ATC NEVER STATED OR ADVISED WE WERE OFF COURSE. THE FED ALSO STATED HIS HEADSET WAS 'CUTTING OUT' PERIODICALLY SO HE MAY HAVE HEARD OUR CLRNC WRONG.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.