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Attributes | |
ACN | 510179 |
Time | |
Date | 200105 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : las.airport |
State Reference | NV |
Altitude | msl single value : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : alb.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Route In Use | departure sid : oveto 3 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 2100 |
ASRS Report | 510179 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe inflight encounter : weather other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar aircraft equipment : gpws other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory controller : issued alert |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 2000 vertical : 1000 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Airspace Structure |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : las.tower |
Narrative:
We picked up the ATIS and were planning to use runway 7R for departure. However, on our taxi out, we noticed the windsock showing a northwest wind (310 degrees at 10 KTS gusting to 20 KTS). I told ground control we were unable to use runway 7R and needed runway 1R for departure. (We used maximum power which gave us a 6000 pound buffer.) our new clearance was 'after takeoff, turn right to a heading of 050 degrees, climb and maintain 7000 ft for radar vectors for the oveto 3 departure, bryce canyon transition.' after lifting off and reaching 400 ft AGL (company policy) we turned right heading 050 degrees. Departure control asked what our climb rate would be and I replied 1000-1500 FPM. He said we had traffic at 12 O'clock below us. He also asked if we had the terrain in sight. I responded with a 'yes, we have both the traffic and the terrain in sight.' he told us to maintain a visual on the traffic and the terrain and we were cleared direct to oveto when able. I requested to continue on our heading for a few more mi so we could clear all obstacles. He approved our request. About that time, our GPWS sounded 'terrain!' we increased our climb. I was positive of our clearance due to a visual on the terrain. I feel this vector needs to be revised in order to stay well clear of all terrain. If the WX had been low, or our climb rate was less, it could cause a problem. I feel the winds out of the wnw might have contributed to this problem.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B727 FLC ACCEPT NEW DEP CLRNC AND ENCOUNTER GPWS ALERT.
Narrative: WE PICKED UP THE ATIS AND WERE PLANNING TO USE RWY 7R FOR DEP. HOWEVER, ON OUR TAXI OUT, WE NOTICED THE WINDSOCK SHOWING A NW WIND (310 DEGS AT 10 KTS GUSTING TO 20 KTS). I TOLD GND CTL WE WERE UNABLE TO USE RWY 7R AND NEEDED RWY 1R FOR DEP. (WE USED MAX PWR WHICH GAVE US A 6000 LB BUFFER.) OUR NEW CLRNC WAS 'AFTER TKOF, TURN R TO A HDG OF 050 DEGS, CLB AND MAINTAIN 7000 FT FOR RADAR VECTORS FOR THE OVETO 3 DEP, BRYCE CANYON TRANSITION.' AFTER LIFTING OFF AND REACHING 400 FT AGL (COMPANY POLICY) WE TURNED R HDG 050 DEGS. DEP CTL ASKED WHAT OUR CLB RATE WOULD BE AND I REPLIED 1000-1500 FPM. HE SAID WE HAD TFC AT 12 O'CLOCK BELOW US. HE ALSO ASKED IF WE HAD THE TERRAIN IN SIGHT. I RESPONDED WITH A 'YES, WE HAVE BOTH THE TFC AND THE TERRAIN IN SIGHT.' HE TOLD US TO MAINTAIN A VISUAL ON THE TFC AND THE TERRAIN AND WE WERE CLRED DIRECT TO OVETO WHEN ABLE. I REQUESTED TO CONTINUE ON OUR HDG FOR A FEW MORE MI SO WE COULD CLR ALL OBSTACLES. HE APPROVED OUR REQUEST. ABOUT THAT TIME, OUR GPWS SOUNDED 'TERRAIN!' WE INCREASED OUR CLB. I WAS POSITIVE OF OUR CLRNC DUE TO A VISUAL ON THE TERRAIN. I FEEL THIS VECTOR NEEDS TO BE REVISED IN ORDER TO STAY WELL CLR OF ALL TERRAIN. IF THE WX HAD BEEN LOW, OR OUR CLB RATE WAS LESS, IT COULD CAUSE A PROB. I FEEL THE WINDS OUT OF THE WNW MIGHT HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THIS PROB.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.