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A united states judge was removed from a boarded flight after it was determined that his authority/authorized to carry a handgun on board was unauthorized at ZZZ, us.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 510418 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200105 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : zzz.airport |
| State Reference | US |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B737-400 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : parked |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : bos.tower |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : flight engineer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 19000 flight time type : 5000 |
| ASRS Report | 510418 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : company policies other anomaly |
| Independent Detector | other other : gnd 3 |
| Consequence | other Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | FAA Company Passenger Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Passenger Human Performance |
Narrative:
A united states judge was given authority/authorized to board aircraft with hand gun. After further checking, the gate agent returned to say the man was not authority/authorized to carry a weapon. My fom says 'not to attempt resolution,' but the agents did remove the man, his bag and his hand gun from the plane. We checked the bag to his destination. The judge was professional, dignified, and cooperative. No problems arose other than 'procedures.' my fom lists many agencies and departments of the federal government that the FAA has approved to carry weapons. I can see or understand why the agent was confused and granted the federal judge a form ss-133. Should any government official be granted the authority/authorized to carry weapons on board? It is a large list. Finally, if the gate agents do try to resolve a mistaken authority/authorized, they should do so with the knowledge of the captain and with airport security police.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A UNITED STATES JUDGE WAS REMOVED FROM A BOARDED FLT AFTER IT WAS DETERMINED THAT HIS AUTH TO CARRY A HANDGUN ON BOARD WAS UNAUTH AT ZZZ, US.
Narrative: A UNITED STATES JUDGE WAS GIVEN AUTH TO BOARD ACFT WITH HAND GUN. AFTER FURTHER CHKING, THE GATE AGENT RETURNED TO SAY THE MAN WAS NOT AUTH TO CARRY A WEAPON. MY FOM SAYS 'NOT TO ATTEMPT RESOLUTION,' BUT THE AGENTS DID REMOVE THE MAN, HIS BAG AND HIS HAND GUN FROM THE PLANE. WE CHKED THE BAG TO HIS DEST. THE JUDGE WAS PROFESSIONAL, DIGNIFIED, AND COOPERATIVE. NO PROBS AROSE OTHER THAN 'PROCS.' MY FOM LISTS MANY AGENCIES AND DEPTS OF THE FEDERAL GOV THAT THE FAA HAS APPROVED TO CARRY WEAPONS. I CAN SEE OR UNDERSTAND WHY THE AGENT WAS CONFUSED AND GRANTED THE FEDERAL JUDGE A FORM SS-133. SHOULD ANY GOV OFFICIAL BE GRANTED THE AUTH TO CARRY WEAPONS ON BOARD? IT IS A LARGE LIST. FINALLY, IF THE GATE AGENTS DO TRY TO RESOLVE A MISTAKEN AUTH, THEY SHOULD DO SO WITH THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE CAPT AND WITH ARPT SECURITY POLICE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.