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ZNY assigns B737-200 flight crew 11000 ft via camrn STAR. Flight crew reads back 11000 ft, but inserts 10000 ft in altitude alerter and descends to 10000 ft, which is caught by ZNY.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 514680 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200106 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : jfk.airport |
| State Reference | NY |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 11000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B737-200 |
| Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude descent : approach |
| Route In Use | arrival star : camrn |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 40 flight time total : 3200 flight time type : 40 |
| ASRS Report | 5146850 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert controller : issued new clearance |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Center told us to descend to 11000 ft at camrn. We descended to 10000 ft. The controller asked us at what altitude we were at, and I said 10000 ft. He said we were supposed to be at 11000 ft, but to stay at 10000 ft. I had read back to descend to 11000 ft. We had dialed in 10000 ft. This was for the approach into kennedy and the camrn 3 arrival.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ZNY ASSIGNS B737-200 FLT CREW 11000 FT VIA CAMRN STAR. FLT CREW READS BACK 11000 FT, BUT INSERTS 10000 FT IN ALT ALERTER AND DSNDS TO 10000 FT, WHICH IS CAUGHT BY ZNY.
Narrative: CTR TOLD US TO DSND TO 11000 FT AT CAMRN. WE DSNDED TO 10000 FT. THE CTLR ASKED US AT WHAT ALT WE WERE AT, AND I SAID 10000 FT. HE SAID WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE AT 11000 FT, BUT TO STAY AT 10000 FT. I HAD READ BACK TO DSND TO 11000 FT. WE HAD DIALED IN 10000 FT. THIS WAS FOR THE APCH INTO KENNEDY AND THE CAMRN 3 ARR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.