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Attributes | |
ACN | 520935 |
Time | |
Date | 200108 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : mem.vortac |
State Reference | TN |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 34300 msl bound upper : 35000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Weather Elements | Turbulence |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zme.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-88 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other other vortac |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zme.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 130 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 4000 |
ASRS Report | 520935 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance controller : separated traffic none taken : unable other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Aircraft |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Narrative:
We requested a climb from FL310 to FL350 to avoid thunderstorm clouds and turbulence. We were cleared to climb to FL350 and instructed to level in 4 mins or less. First officer climbed steeply to avoid the overhang clouds that we were about to fly through. Due to the steep climb, our airspeed decayed below climb speed and the aircraft stopped climbing at 34300 ft. I immediately informed center and requested a turn away. We began an off course turn and the controller descended an air carrier aircraft from FL330 to FL310. We were then granted a descent to FL310 and a turn on course. I queried the controller about a possible separation problem and he stated there was not. After landing, I called the center and spoke to the supervisor and he assured me there was no conflict. I file this report to highlight the problems of accepting climb clrncs at high altitudes and in turbulent air near the limits of aircraft performance capability. A valuable lesson was learned without sacrificing separation or safety. No TCASII alerts as well.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MD88 FLC WERE UNABLE TO CLB TO THE ALT TO WHICH REQUESTED AND CLRED DUE TO LACK OF ACFT PERFORMANCE.
Narrative: WE REQUESTED A CLB FROM FL310 TO FL350 TO AVOID TSTM CLOUDS AND TURB. WE WERE CLRED TO CLB TO FL350 AND INSTRUCTED TO LEVEL IN 4 MINS OR LESS. FO CLBED STEEPLY TO AVOID THE OVERHANG CLOUDS THAT WE WERE ABOUT TO FLY THROUGH. DUE TO THE STEEP CLB, OUR AIRSPD DECAYED BELOW CLB SPD AND THE ACFT STOPPED CLBING AT 34300 FT. I IMMEDIATELY INFORMED CTR AND REQUESTED A TURN AWAY. WE BEGAN AN OFF COURSE TURN AND THE CTLR DSNDED AN ACR ACFT FROM FL330 TO FL310. WE WERE THEN GRANTED A DSCNT TO FL310 AND A TURN ON COURSE. I QUERIED THE CTLR ABOUT A POSSIBLE SEPARATION PROB AND HE STATED THERE WAS NOT. AFTER LNDG, I CALLED THE CTR AND SPOKE TO THE SUPVR AND HE ASSURED ME THERE WAS NO CONFLICT. I FILE THIS RPT TO HIGHLIGHT THE PROBS OF ACCEPTING CLB CLRNCS AT HIGH ALTS AND IN TURBULENT AIR NEAR THE LIMITS OF ACFT PERFORMANCE CAPABILITY. A VALUABLE LESSON WAS LEARNED WITHOUT SACRIFICING SEPARATION OR SAFETY. NO TCASII ALERTS AS WELL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.