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Attributes | |
ACN | 525838 |
Time | |
Date | 200109 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : sea.vortac |
State Reference | WA |
Altitude | msl single value : 8000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : s46.tracon artcc : zdc.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure sid : mountain five |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 225 |
ASRS Report | 525838 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 180 |
ASRS Report | 525763 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Company |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On climb out from sea on runway 341 degree heading passing approximately 8000 ft at about 14 DME, departure asked if we had been assigned a departure and informed us that we were to have turned to 070 degrees at 8 DME. We discovered that we had missed our pre-departure clearance which stated 'mountain 5' departure -- we mistakenly interpreted this as 'mountains' ie, mountain with an 'south' on the end and not a '5.' we feel to eliminate confusion in the future 'mountain 5' should be spelled out 'mountain five.' supplemental information from acn 525763: on climb out from seatac on runway 34R, 341 degree heading, climbing through approximately 8000 ft MSL, the departure controller questioned us about our assigned SID, and told us that we were supposed to be on the mountain 5 (five) SID that had a turn to 070 degrees at 8 DME (sea). After leveloff, we rechked the printed copy of the pre-departure clearance and saw that we had 'read' the SID assignment as a warning -- 'mountains' not as the 'mountain 5' SID. The 'mountain 5' SID was not part of our FMC database. Spelling out the number would have eliminated our confusion. There were no traffic conflicts and the departure controller didn't seem concerned. To add to it all, tower asked for a 'bases' and 'tops' report on our departure. This was not a factor, but could have been if the 'tops' would have been higher. Other airports that I have flown out of, spell out the numbers of the SID.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ASSIGNED SID NOT FLOWN ON DEP FROM SEATTLE, WA. CREW CLAIMS CONFUSION OF FORMAT OF PRE-DEP CLRNC.
Narrative: ON CLBOUT FROM SEA ON RWY 341 DEG HDG PASSING APPROX 8000 FT AT ABOUT 14 DME, DEP ASKED IF WE HAD BEEN ASSIGNED A DEP AND INFORMED US THAT WE WERE TO HAVE TURNED TO 070 DEGS AT 8 DME. WE DISCOVERED THAT WE HAD MISSED OUR PRE-DEP CLRNC WHICH STATED 'MOUNTAIN 5' DEP -- WE MISTAKENLY INTERPED THIS AS 'MOUNTAINS' IE, MOUNTAIN WITH AN 'S' ON THE END AND NOT A '5.' WE FEEL TO ELIMINATE CONFUSION IN THE FUTURE 'MOUNTAIN 5' SHOULD BE SPELLED OUT 'MOUNTAIN FIVE.' SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 525763: ON CLBOUT FROM SEATAC ON RWY 34R, 341 DEG HDG, CLBING THROUGH APPROX 8000 FT MSL, THE DEP CTLR QUESTIONED US ABOUT OUR ASSIGNED SID, AND TOLD US THAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE ON THE MOUNTAIN 5 (FIVE) SID THAT HAD A TURN TO 070 DEGS AT 8 DME (SEA). AFTER LEVELOFF, WE RECHKED THE PRINTED COPY OF THE PRE-DEP CLRNC AND SAW THAT WE HAD 'READ' THE SID ASSIGNMENT AS A WARNING -- 'MOUNTAINS' NOT AS THE 'MOUNTAIN 5' SID. THE 'MOUNTAIN 5' SID WAS NOT PART OF OUR FMC DATABASE. SPELLING OUT THE NUMBER WOULD HAVE ELIMINATED OUR CONFUSION. THERE WERE NO TFC CONFLICTS AND THE DEP CTLR DIDN'T SEEM CONCERNED. TO ADD TO IT ALL, TWR ASKED FOR A 'BASES' AND 'TOPS' RPT ON OUR DEP. THIS WAS NOT A FACTOR, BUT COULD HAVE BEEN IF THE 'TOPS' WOULD HAVE BEEN HIGHER. OTHER ARPTS THAT I HAVE FLOWN OUT OF, SPELL OUT THE NUMBERS OF THE SID.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.