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Attributes | |
ACN | 527120 |
Time | |
Date | 200110 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sea.airport |
State Reference | WA |
Altitude | msl single value : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : s46.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B767 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 4700 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 527120 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 2000 vertical : 1000 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance ATC Facility Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
We were proceeding visually to the mall on the mall visual for seatac airport. (Heading 035 degrees at 5000 ft MSL). Approach control told us to look for a B767 at our 1 O'clock position. As we approached the mall, we reported traffic to the east that was on a base leg to the airport. Approach control then cleared us for the visual approach to runway 34L and said the traffic was for runway 34R. I then turned toward the airport to make sure we wouldn't overshoot final. As we turned onto the final the other aircraft was right next to us, but at a safe distance. Approach control never said to follow the other aircraft or who was first for the airport. The other aircraft did tell the controller he was following us. We continued with the approach assuming we were first and nothing more was said by approach controllers.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: VISUAL SEPARATION IS APPLIED TO PARALLEL APCHS TO RWY 34L AND RWY 34R AT SEA.
Narrative: WE WERE PROCEEDING VISUALLY TO THE MALL ON THE MALL VISUAL FOR SEATAC ARPT. (HEADING 035 DEGS AT 5000 FT MSL). APCH CTL TOLD US TO LOOK FOR A B767 AT OUR 1 O'CLOCK POS. AS WE APCHED THE MALL, WE RPTED TFC TO THE E THAT WAS ON A BASE LEG TO THE ARPT. APCH CTL THEN CLRED US FOR THE VISUAL APCH TO RWY 34L AND SAID THE TFC WAS FOR RWY 34R. I THEN TURNED TOWARD THE ARPT TO MAKE SURE WE WOULDN'T OVERSHOOT FINAL. AS WE TURNED ONTO THE FINAL THE OTHER ACFT WAS RIGHT NEXT TO US, BUT AT A SAFE DISTANCE. APCH CTL NEVER SAID TO FOLLOW THE OTHER ACFT OR WHO WAS FIRST FOR THE ARPT. THE OTHER ACFT DID TELL THE CTLR HE WAS FOLLOWING US. WE CONTINUED WITH THE APCH ASSUMING WE WERE FIRST AND NOTHING MORE WAS SAID BY APCH CTLRS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.