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Attributes | |
ACN | 531275 |
Time | |
Date | 200111 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dsm.airport |
State Reference | IA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 700 agl bound upper : 1500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : dsm.tracon tower : btv.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Regional Jet CL65, Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 31 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : instrument precision |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 230 flight time total : 8200 flight time type : 1500 |
ASRS Report | 531275 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure non adherence other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : altimeter setting other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to assigned altitude |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were cleared to 2400 ft until establish on a published portion of the approach, cleared for ILS runway 31 (dsm). I made a slow descent, so I could try and intercept the GS. First officer called field in sight approximately 10 NM from field. Leveled off at 2400 ft and I was still below GS. (Radar altimeter read 700 ft.) told my first officer that something was not right and it was rather low for being outside OM. First officer said 'well, you're right, but you're at 1500 ft.' I had 2500 ft. I asked again what the altimeter setting was and found that I have 30.36 and my first officer had 29.36. During the checklist we set altimeters. I called '30.36 set right.' first officer called altimeter for her side as well as stand by. Never caught the difference in settings. While descending through 3400 ft (actual 2400 ft) I stated '1000 ft to level off.' first officer never questioned the call, even though her altimeter was reading correct altitude of 2400 ft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CL65 CAPT OVERSHOT APCH INTERMEDIATE ALT DUE TO WRONG ALTIMETER SETTING.
Narrative: WE WERE CLRED TO 2400 FT UNTIL ESTABLISH ON A PUBLISHED PORTION OF THE APCH, CLRED FOR ILS RWY 31 (DSM). I MADE A SLOW DSCNT, SO I COULD TRY AND INTERCEPT THE GS. FO CALLED FIELD IN SIGHT APPROX 10 NM FROM FIELD. LEVELED OFF AT 2400 FT AND I WAS STILL BELOW GS. (RADAR ALTIMETER READ 700 FT.) TOLD MY FO THAT SOMETHING WAS NOT RIGHT AND IT WAS RATHER LOW FOR BEING OUTSIDE OM. FO SAID 'WELL, YOU'RE RIGHT, BUT YOU'RE AT 1500 FT.' I HAD 2500 FT. I ASKED AGAIN WHAT THE ALTIMETER SETTING WAS AND FOUND THAT I HAVE 30.36 AND MY FO HAD 29.36. DURING THE CHKLIST WE SET ALTIMETERS. I CALLED '30.36 SET R.' FO CALLED ALTIMETER FOR HER SIDE AS WELL AS STAND BY. NEVER CAUGHT THE DIFFERENCE IN SETTINGS. WHILE DSNDING THROUGH 3400 FT (ACTUAL 2400 FT) I STATED '1000 FT TO LEVEL OFF.' FO NEVER QUESTIONED THE CALL, EVEN THOUGH HER ALTIMETER WAS READING CORRECT ALT OF 2400 FT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.