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Attributes | |
ACN | 532432 |
Time | |
Date | 200112 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : spi.airport |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : ord.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | SF 340A |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | landing : roll |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : spi.tower |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | landing : roll |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : multi engine pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 4000 flight time type : 1300 |
ASRS Report | 532432 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : ground critical incursion : runway non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
Consequence | faa : investigated faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
On a visual approach to runway 22, we were cleared to land. No TA's or lahso clearance was given. The first officer made a normal landing in the touchdown zone. We were asked to make a left on taxiway B, but I said unable because we were still moving too fast. I offered them a 180 degree turn back to taxiway B if they'd allow it. Tower approved the 180 degree turn, but said to do it short of runway 31. We were still decelerating during this ATC clearance and had already passed the hold short line for runway 31, which was just past taxiway B. The airplane came to a rest between the hold short line for runway 31 and the runway. It was then I saw a small bizjet rolling out on runway 31 right in front of us. Tower never told us about the traffic. Once at the gate, I called the tower to express my disbelief of the occurrence. I asked why they let that situation develop. They told me that I did everything fine and said I held short of runway 31, so I was ok. In my opinion, this approach could have been disastrous. Tower needed to work out the sequence better, they needed to make us and the other aircraft aware of our position, and tower needed to have one of us go around, given the fact we almost ended at the same time on crossing runways and almost met in the middle! Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter's conversation with tower was without resolution. The tower commented to the reporter that there was no problem since he didn't actually proceed onto the other runway, having stopped at the runway edge.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SF34 FLC ADVISE UNABLE HOLD SHORT OF INTERSECTING RWY AT SPI AS ANOTHER ACFT PASSES THROUGH INTERSECTING RWY.
Narrative: ON A VISUAL APCH TO RWY 22, WE WERE CLRED TO LAND. NO TA'S OR LAHSO CLRNC WAS GIVEN. THE FO MADE A NORMAL LNDG IN THE TOUCHDOWN ZONE. WE WERE ASKED TO MAKE A L ON TXWY B, BUT I SAID UNABLE BECAUSE WE WERE STILL MOVING TOO FAST. I OFFERED THEM A 180 DEG TURN BACK TO TXWY B IF THEY'D ALLOW IT. TWR APPROVED THE 180 DEG TURN, BUT SAID TO DO IT SHORT OF RWY 31. WE WERE STILL DECELERATING DURING THIS ATC CLRNC AND HAD ALREADY PASSED THE HOLD SHORT LINE FOR RWY 31, WHICH WAS JUST PAST TXWY B. THE AIRPLANE CAME TO A REST BTWN THE HOLD SHORT LINE FOR RWY 31 AND THE RWY. IT WAS THEN I SAW A SMALL BIZJET ROLLING OUT ON RWY 31 RIGHT IN FRONT OF US. TWR NEVER TOLD US ABOUT THE TFC. ONCE AT THE GATE, I CALLED THE TWR TO EXPRESS MY DISBELIEF OF THE OCCURRENCE. I ASKED WHY THEY LET THAT SIT DEVELOP. THEY TOLD ME THAT I DID EVERYTHING FINE AND SAID I HELD SHORT OF RWY 31, SO I WAS OK. IN MY OPINION, THIS APCH COULD HAVE BEEN DISASTROUS. TWR NEEDED TO WORK OUT THE SEQUENCE BETTER, THEY NEEDED TO MAKE US AND THE OTHER ACFT AWARE OF OUR POS, AND TWR NEEDED TO HAVE ONE OF US GO AROUND, GIVEN THE FACT WE ALMOST ENDED AT THE SAME TIME ON XING RWYS AND ALMOST MET IN THE MIDDLE! CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR'S CONVERSATION WITH TWR WAS WITHOUT RESOLUTION. THE TWR COMMENTED TO THE RPTR THAT THERE WAS NO PROB SINCE HE DIDN'T ACTUALLY PROCEED ONTO THE OTHER RWY, HAVING STOPPED AT THE RWY EDGE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.