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Attributes | |
ACN | 533734 |
Time | |
Date | 200201 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | special use airspace : p40.prohibited |
State Reference | US |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 7500 msl bound upper : 8500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : zzz2.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 1075 flight time type : 750 |
ASRS Report | 533734 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Events | |
Anomaly | airspace violation : entry non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : investigated faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Airspace Structure Flight Crew Human Performance FAA Chart Or Publication |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Situations | |
Chart | sectional : zzz |
Narrative:
I was giving rides to friends from ZZZ mostly to the west, clear of airspace at ZZZ1 airport. WX was starting to go MVFR west so I started maneuvering more north of ZZZ than expected at 7500 to 8500 ft MSL. I was squawking 1200 with no flight following. I noted on my WAC and GPS that I was nearing P40, and I believed that I could be at 7500 to 8500 ft and not be in their airspace. I was flying and checking the map, I did not see the R4009 in-flight. I was approaching ZZZ and was asked to 'identify' by someone and I did. I was then told to contact ZZZ2 approach for possible airspace violation. I thought the reason was that I 'clipped ZZZ1 airspace, but looked at my track and saw I was ok.' I called approach and was told that I violated P40 and that the supervisor would 'file a pilot deviation with FSDO.' I was unaware of the NOTAM expanding the prohibited airspace. As such a major NOTAM, I feel it worthy of issuing new second/WAC charts and outline the no fly zone in red hash marks when it is surface to class a airspace. I believe the FAA should also have a website with all no fly zones clearly depicted on a USA interactive map with a red DOT. I could then click the 'red DOT' and see an exploded view (map) and read the NOTAM details -- none exists as I know of. In the last month, I have flown with clearance into many class B airspaces properly. I believe better reporting of NOTAM with pictures (and new maps) would better help me than any other 'remedial' training that may result because of this.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: GA PLT OBSERVED OVER FLYING P40, CHALLENGED AND INTERVIEWED BY FAA.
Narrative: I WAS GIVING RIDES TO FRIENDS FROM ZZZ MOSTLY TO THE W, CLR OF AIRSPACE AT ZZZ1 ARPT. WX WAS STARTING TO GO MVFR W SO I STARTED MANEUVERING MORE N OF ZZZ THAN EXPECTED AT 7500 TO 8500 FT MSL. I WAS SQUAWKING 1200 WITH NO FLT FOLLOWING. I NOTED ON MY WAC AND GPS THAT I WAS NEARING P40, AND I BELIEVED THAT I COULD BE AT 7500 TO 8500 FT AND NOT BE IN THEIR AIRSPACE. I WAS FLYING AND CHKING THE MAP, I DID NOT SEE THE R4009 INFLT. I WAS APCHING ZZZ AND WAS ASKED TO 'IDENT' BY SOMEONE AND I DID. I WAS THEN TOLD TO CONTACT ZZZ2 APCH FOR POSSIBLE AIRSPACE VIOLATION. I THOUGHT THE REASON WAS THAT I 'CLIPPED ZZZ1 AIRSPACE, BUT LOOKED AT MY TRACK AND SAW I WAS OK.' I CALLED APCH AND WAS TOLD THAT I VIOLATED P40 AND THAT THE SUPVR WOULD 'FILE A PLT DEVIATION WITH FSDO.' I WAS UNAWARE OF THE NOTAM EXPANDING THE PROHIBITED AIRSPACE. AS SUCH A MAJOR NOTAM, I FEEL IT WORTHY OF ISSUING NEW SEC/WAC CHARTS AND OUTLINE THE NO FLY ZONE IN RED HASH MARKS WHEN IT IS SURFACE TO CLASS A AIRSPACE. I BELIEVE THE FAA SHOULD ALSO HAVE A WEBSITE WITH ALL NO FLY ZONES CLEARLY DEPICTED ON A USA INTERACTIVE MAP WITH A RED DOT. I COULD THEN CLICK THE 'RED DOT' AND SEE AN EXPLODED VIEW (MAP) AND READ THE NOTAM DETAILS -- NONE EXISTS AS I KNOW OF. IN THE LAST MONTH, I HAVE FLOWN WITH CLRNC INTO MANY CLASS B AIRSPACES PROPERLY. I BELIEVE BETTER REPORTING OF NOTAM WITH PICTURES (AND NEW MAPS) WOULD BETTER HELP ME THAN ANY OTHER 'REMEDIAL' TRAINING THAT MAY RESULT BECAUSE OF THIS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.