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Attributes | |
ACN | 535873 |
Time | |
Date | 200201 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : bff.airport |
State Reference | NE |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 37000 msl bound upper : 41000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdv.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | cruise : enroute altitude change |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 110 flight time total : 12500 flight time type : 3500 |
ASRS Report | 535873 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : turbulence non adherence : published procedure other anomaly |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : air speed ind. other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : regained aircraft control other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Weather Flight Crew Human Performance Aircraft |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Had a bit of light turbulence at FL370. FMC indicated our maximum altitude capable was FL415, so we requested FL410 to find a smoother ride. Aircraft climbed normally to FL410 and about 1 min after leveling off, our speed was back at .710 mach. I brought this to the captain's attention and he added maximum thrust which didn't help increase or maintain our airspeed. I called center to request a block fro FL410-FL390, which was approved. At this time, we could feel initial stall buffeting. The captain disconnected the autoplt and descended to FL400 where the aircraft performed normally maintaining economy cruise of .79 mach. FMC maximum altitude then varied from FL409 to FL415. Suspect cause of our getting behind the power curve came through a prompt climb to FL410 and the autothrottles retarding power towards idle after leveloff to maintain economy speed. Autothrottle was likely slow to re-establish cruise power in a timely fashion, thus getting behind the power curve. In retrospect, the crew caught this in time, but could have intervened sooner.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B757 FLC EXPERIENCE AN APCH TO STALL DURING LEVELOFF AT FL410 DUE TO THEIR PROC USED TO CLB AND LEVEL OFF NEAR THE ACFT'S MAX CRUISING ALT.
Narrative: HAD A BIT OF LIGHT TURB AT FL370. FMC INDICATED OUR MAX ALT CAPABLE WAS FL415, SO WE REQUESTED FL410 TO FIND A SMOOTHER RIDE. ACFT CLBED NORMALLY TO FL410 AND ABOUT 1 MIN AFTER LEVELING OFF, OUR SPD WAS BACK AT .710 MACH. I BROUGHT THIS TO THE CAPT'S ATTN AND HE ADDED MAX THRUST WHICH DIDN'T HELP INCREASE OR MAINTAIN OUR AIRSPD. I CALLED CTR TO REQUEST A BLOCK FRO FL410-FL390, WHICH WAS APPROVED. AT THIS TIME, WE COULD FEEL INITIAL STALL BUFFETING. THE CAPT DISCONNECTED THE AUTOPLT AND DSNDED TO FL400 WHERE THE ACFT PERFORMED NORMALLY MAINTAINING ECONOMY CRUISE OF .79 MACH. FMC MAX ALT THEN VARIED FROM FL409 TO FL415. SUSPECT CAUSE OF OUR GETTING BEHIND THE PWR CURVE CAME THROUGH A PROMPT CLB TO FL410 AND THE AUTOTHROTTLES RETARDING PWR TOWARDS IDLE AFTER LEVELOFF TO MAINTAIN ECONOMY SPD. AUTOTHROTTLE WAS LIKELY SLOW TO RE-ESTABLISH CRUISE PWR IN A TIMELY FASHION, THUS GETTING BEHIND THE PWR CURVE. IN RETROSPECT, THE CREW CAUGHT THIS IN TIME, BUT COULD HAVE INTERVENED SOONER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.