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A PA34 instructor, during an emergency demonstration, let the trainee continue the maneuver beyond normal safety parameters before assuming control and executing a go around.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 537454 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200201 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : poc.airport |
| State Reference | CA |
| Environment | |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : poc.tower |
| Operator | general aviation : instructional |
| Make Model Name | PA-34-200 Seneca I |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : go around |
| Route In Use | approach : traffic pattern |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | instruction : instructor |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : cfi pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 300 flight time total : 1130 flight time type : 24 |
| ASRS Report | 537454 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | instruction : trainee |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far other anomaly |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : executed go around |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
During a simulated emergency, I let the PF take it a little too far. I showed poor judgement in letting him try to pull it off. I told him he should go around. He responded that he could do it. We ended with a high sink rate and a slowing down airspeed. I then had to take the aircraft from him and go around. The fact that he was a commercial pilot with 3000 hours might have intimidated me and affected my judgement. During a big part of our previous training, he had demonstrated great stick and rudder skills. He might need to show better judgement, but that is really hard to teach people -- especially another CFI. His level of experience is no excuse for letting him fly the plane too close to the ground in any other way than under full control of the situation. I learned from this situation that no matter how many hours a pilot has, there is always room to improve, and that teaching judgement is the hardest part of training.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A PA34 INSTRUCTOR, DURING AN EMER DEMONSTRATION, LET THE TRAINEE CONTINUE THE MANEUVER BEYOND NORMAL SAFETY PARAMETERS BEFORE ASSUMING CTL AND EXECUTING A GAR.
Narrative: DURING A SIMULATED EMER, I LET THE PF TAKE IT A LITTLE TOO FAR. I SHOWED POOR JUDGEMENT IN LETTING HIM TRY TO PULL IT OFF. I TOLD HIM HE SHOULD GO AROUND. HE RESPONDED THAT HE COULD DO IT. WE ENDED WITH A HIGH SINK RATE AND A SLOWING DOWN AIRSPD. I THEN HAD TO TAKE THE ACFT FROM HIM AND GO AROUND. THE FACT THAT HE WAS A COMMERCIAL PLT WITH 3000 HRS MIGHT HAVE INTIMIDATED ME AND AFFECTED MY JUDGEMENT. DURING A BIG PART OF OUR PREVIOUS TRAINING, HE HAD DEMONSTRATED GREAT STICK AND RUDDER SKILLS. HE MIGHT NEED TO SHOW BETTER JUDGEMENT, BUT THAT IS REALLY HARD TO TEACH PEOPLE -- ESPECIALLY ANOTHER CFI. HIS LEVEL OF EXPERIENCE IS NO EXCUSE FOR LETTING HIM FLY THE PLANE TOO CLOSE TO THE GND IN ANY OTHER WAY THAN UNDER FULL CTL OF THE SIT. I LEARNED FROM THIS SIT THAT NO MATTER HOW MANY HRS A PLT HAS, THERE IS ALWAYS ROOM TO IMPROVE, AND THAT TEACHING JUDGEMENT IS THE HARDEST PART OF TRAINING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.