37000 Feet | Browse and search NASA's Aviation Safety Reporting System |
|
Attributes | |
ACN | 538697 |
Time | |
Date | 200202 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : zzz.airport |
State Reference | US |
Altitude | msl single value : 800 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Weather Elements | Turbulence Windshear |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : zzz1.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : go around |
Route In Use | approach : traffic pattern |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 1200 flight time type : 550 |
ASRS Report | 538697 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot instruction : trainee |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather inflight encounter other other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : executed go around none taken : anomaly accepted |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Weather Airport FAA Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
Our problem arose during go around procedures in the traffic pattern runway 28 at ZZZ. ZZZ has cooling towers approximately 2 miles to the west of the departure end of runway 28. The gars are perceived as loitering in the vicinity of the cooling towers. We called ZZZ in sight with approach and proceeded north of the field to enter the pattern on a 45 degree to right downwind. I could see that the wind was converging us on the runway while on downwind and verbally alerted my student to this. The wind was strong for a student pilot and we were experiencing gusty conditions ( wind was approximately 330 degrees at 15 KTS gusts 20KTS).this crosswind situation coupled with my students anxiety in this new airport environment caused him to overshoot final approach and we executed a go around within the traffic pattern. We discussed what had happened and both felt confident that he could correct his action on the next approach so we proceeded. The approach was textbook, however his crosswind correction left much to be desired once over the runway so we elected for the most conservative course of action and execute a go around procedure within the traffic pattern. Our third approach to landing was decided to be me at the controls demonstrating the technique. We landed the aircraft went into the FBO to close our VFR flight plan and then departed ZZZ of runway 28 with a downwind departure to the east. There were no specific NOTAMS on file for ZZZ. So we used the normal departure procedure for runway 28 (climb to 800 ft MSL then turn right crosswind to avoid hospital). I felt that it was a good lesson in windshear avoidance as well as ground reference/rectangular course maneuvers. My reluctance to take control from my student was also a major factor in our gars.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SMA INSTRUCTOR AND STUDENT WERE CONCERNED THAT A GAR AT AN ARPT CLOSE TO COOLING TWRS WOULD CONSTITUTE 'LOITERING' NEAR A FACILITY.
Narrative: OUR PROB AROSE DURING GAR PROCS IN THE TFC PATTERN RWY 28 AT ZZZ. ZZZ HAS COOLING TWRS APPROX 2 MILES TO THE W OF THE DEP END OF RWY 28. THE GARS ARE PERCEIVED AS LOITERING IN THE VICINITY OF THE COOLING TWRS. WE CALLED ZZZ IN SIGHT WITH APCH AND PROCEEDED N OF THE FIELD TO ENTER THE PATTERN ON A 45 DEG TO RIGHT DOWNWIND. I COULD SEE THAT THE WIND WAS CONVERGING US ON THE RWY WHILE ON DOWNWIND AND VERBALLY ALERTED MY STUDENT TO THIS. THE WIND WAS STRONG FOR A STUDENT PLT AND WE WERE EXPERIENCING GUSTY CONDITIONS ( WIND WAS APPROX 330 DEGS AT 15 KTS GUSTS 20KTS).THIS CROSSWIND SITUATION COUPLED WITH MY STUDENTS ANXIETY IN THIS NEW ARPT ENVIRONMENT CAUSED HIM TO OVERSHOOT FINAL APCH AND WE EXECUTED A GAR WITHIN THE TFC PATTERN. WE DISCUSSED WHAT HAD HAPPENED AND BOTH FELT CONFIDENT THAT HE COULD CORRECT HIS ACTION ON THE NEXT APCH SO WE PROCEEDED. THE APCH WAS TEXTBOOK, HOWEVER HIS XWIND CORRECTION LEFT MUCH TO BE DESIRED ONCE OVER THE RWY SO WE ELECTED FOR THE MOST CONSERVATIVE COURSE OF ACTION AND EXECUTE A GAR PROC WITHIN THE TFC PATTERN. OUR THIRD APCH TO LNDG WAS DECIDED TO BE ME AT THE CONTROLS DEMONSTRATING THE TECHNIQUE. WE LANDED THE ACFT WENT INTO THE FBO TO CLOSE OUR VFR FLT PLAN AND THEN DEPARTED ZZZ OF RWY 28 WITH A DOWNWIND DEP TO THE E. THERE WERE NO SPECIFIC NOTAMS ON FILE FOR ZZZ. SO WE USED THE NORMAL DEP PROC FOR RWY 28 (CLIMB TO 800 FT MSL THEN TURN R XWIND TO AVOID HOSPITAL). I FELT THAT IT WAS A GOOD LESSON IN WINDSHEAR AVOIDANCE AS WELL AS GND REFERENCE/RECTANGULAR COURSE MANEUVERS. MY RELUCTANCE TO TAKE CTL FROM MY STUDENT WAS ALSO A MAJOR FACTOR IN OUR GARS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.