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B767 crew was given a last second change in runway from runway 28L to runway 28R in sfo. The FAA has established different intersection names at co-located places 16 mi out.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 540917 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200203 |
| Day | Wed |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | intersection : dumba |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl single value : 2500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Weather Elements | Rain |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : o90.tracon |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B767 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 28r |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | approach : instrument precision arrival : vfr |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : o90.tracon |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B747 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 28l other |
| Route In Use | approach : instrument precision |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 190 flight time total : 17000 flight time type : 2241 |
| ASRS Report | 540917 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather inflight encounter other non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far non adherence : company policies other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : returned to intended or assigned course none taken : detected after the fact other |
| Consequence | other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance FAA ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Both the copilot and I heard bay approach (I don't remember the frequency) say you are following a B747 6 mi ahead to runway 28L then he gave heading 310 degrees intercept the localizer and cross dumba at something. I said to repeat the intersection and he said dumba and I said that's on runway 28R and he said yes you are cleared runway 28R. So we went past the runway 28R localizer till we got it tuned. We think that following B747 to runway 28L led us to mishear or he never gave us runway 28R till the last second.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B767 CREW WAS GIVEN A LAST SECOND CHANGE IN RWY FROM RWY 28L TO RWY 28R IN SFO. THE FAA HAS ESTABLISHED DIFFERENT INTXN NAMES AT CO-LOCATED PLACES 16 MI OUT.
Narrative: BOTH THE COPLT AND I HEARD BAY APCH (I DON'T REMEMBER THE FREQ) SAY YOU ARE FOLLOWING A B747 6 MI AHEAD TO RWY 28L THEN HE GAVE HEADING 310 DEGS INTERCEPT THE LOC AND CROSS DUMBA AT SOMETHING. I SAID TO REPEAT THE INTXN AND HE SAID DUMBA AND I SAID THAT'S ON RWY 28R AND HE SAID YES YOU ARE CLRED RWY 28R. SO WE WENT PAST THE RWY 28R LOC TILL WE GOT IT TUNED. WE THINK THAT FOLLOWING B747 TO RWY 28L LED US TO MISHEAR OR HE NEVER GAVE US RWY 28R TILL THE LAST SECOND.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.