B737 flight crew crosses hold short line of runway 19L at mci and stops.

Attributes
ACN	547658
Time
Date	200205
Day	Wed
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : mci.airport
State Reference	MO
Altitude	agl single value : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tower : mci.tower
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	MD-88
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Navigation In Use	other
Flight Phase	ground : taxi
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Controlling Facilities	tower : mci.tower
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Navigation In Use	other
Flight Phase	landing : go around
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 3000
ASRS Report	547658
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Events
Anomaly	conflict : ground less severe incursion : runway non adherence : clearance
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	controller : issued new clearance flight crew : executed go around
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

While taxiing for takeoff, runway 19L at mci, tower controller cleared us 'into position and hold runway 19L.' while taxiing onto the runway, I noticed what appeared to be a commuter jet on about a 2-3 mi final. I stopped approximately 10-15 ft over the runway hold short line and asked the first officer to query the tower controller about our clearance 'on to hold.' the tower controller did not respond to this request, but the aircraft on final transmitted that he was landing on runway 19L. The tower controller responded to our second query with 'cleared for immediate takeoff runway 19L.' we advised him we would be 'unable' and that we were 10-15 ft over the hold line. Tower then had the short final aircraft go around. Since there was confusion on our part as to whether or not the tower controller realized he had an aircraft on a short final, I would recommend that his initial transmission include the traffic on final while clearing us 'into position and hold.' (ie: 'traffic on 4 NM final, cleared into position and hold'). The commuter jet I thought I saw on about a 2 NM final turned out to be a B737 on about a 4 NM final. Had his transmission included the TA, I wouldn't have needed to query him about the apparent conflict, and could have complied with his clearance 'on to hold.'

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: B737 FLC CROSSES HOLD SHORT LINE OF RWY 19L AT MCI AND STOPS.

Narrative: WHILE TAXIING FOR TKOF, RWY 19L AT MCI, TWR CTLR CLRED US 'INTO POS AND HOLD RWY 19L.' WHILE TAXIING ONTO THE RWY, I NOTICED WHAT APPEARED TO BE A COMMUTER JET ON ABOUT A 2-3 MI FINAL. I STOPPED APPROX 10-15 FT OVER THE RWY HOLD SHORT LINE AND ASKED THE FO TO QUERY THE TWR CTLR ABOUT OUR CLRNC 'ON TO HOLD.' THE TWR CTLR DID NOT RESPOND TO THIS REQUEST, BUT THE ACFT ON FINAL XMITTED THAT HE WAS LNDG ON RWY 19L. THE TWR CTLR RESPONDED TO OUR SECOND QUERY WITH 'CLRED FOR IMMEDIATE TKOF RWY 19L.' WE ADVISED HIM WE WOULD BE 'UNABLE' AND THAT WE WERE 10-15 FT OVER THE HOLD LINE. TWR THEN HAD THE SHORT FINAL ACFT GO AROUND. SINCE THERE WAS CONFUSION ON OUR PART AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THE TWR CTLR REALIZED HE HAD AN ACFT ON A SHORT FINAL, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT HIS INITIAL XMISSION INCLUDE THE TFC ON FINAL WHILE CLRING US 'INTO POS AND HOLD.' (IE: 'TFC ON 4 NM FINAL, CLRED INTO POS AND HOLD'). THE COMMUTER JET I THOUGHT I SAW ON ABOUT A 2 NM FINAL TURNED OUT TO BE A B737 ON ABOUT A 4 NM FINAL. HAD HIS XMISSION INCLUDED THE TA, I WOULDN'T HAVE NEEDED TO QUERY HIM ABOUT THE APPARENT CONFLICT, AND COULD HAVE COMPLIED WITH HIS CLRNC 'ON TO HOLD.'

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.