<< >> NASA ASRS Report 562689, October 2002

MD80 crew at ord cleared into position and hold, stopped on the hold short line when traffic was observed on final.

Attributes
ACN	562689
Time
Date	200210
Day	Thu
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : ord.airport
State Reference	IL
Altitude	agl single value : 0
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tower : ord.tower
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	MD-80 Super 80
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	ground : holding
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Controlling Facilities	tower : ord.tower
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Commercial Fixed Wing
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	descent : approach
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
ASRS Report	562689
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial
ASRS Report	562693
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other controllera other flight crewa other flight crewb other other : 3
Resolutory Action	controller : issued new clearance none taken : anomaly accepted
Supplementary
Problem Areas	ATC Human Performance
Primary Problem	ATC Human Performance

Narrative:

Ord tower frequency 126.9 was departing traffic runways 9L and 4L while also landing runway 9L. Aircraft ahead of us departed runway 9L and we were cleared into position and hold runway 9L. First officer acknowledged position and hold runway 9L. Upon turning left onto taxiway J for wy 9L, aircrew cleared left for landing traffic and saw aircraft on final. Captain stopped aircraft on runway 9L hold line. Tower then instructed us to hold short for additional landing traffic. No deviations or traffic noted by us or tower.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: MD80 CREW AT ORD CLRED INTO POS AND HOLD, STOPPED ON THE HOLD SHORT LINE WHEN TFC WAS OBSERVED ON FINAL.

Narrative: ORD TWR FREQ 126.9 WAS DEPARTING TFC RWYS 9L AND 4L WHILE ALSO LNDG RWY 9L. ACFT AHEAD OF US DEPARTED RWY 9L AND WE WERE CLRED INTO POS AND HOLD RWY 9L. FO ACKNOWLEDGED POS AND HOLD RWY 9L. UPON TURNING L ONTO TXWY J FOR WY 9L, AIRCREW CLRED L FOR LNDG TFC AND SAW ACFT ON FINAL. CAPT STOPPED ACFT ON RWY 9L HOLD LINE. TWR THEN INSTRUCTED US TO HOLD SHORT FOR ADDITIONAL LNDG TFC. NO DEVS OR TFC NOTED BY US OR TWR.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.