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Attributes | |
ACN | 588407 |
Time | |
Date | 200307 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : crg.vortac |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | msl single value : 37000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zjx.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other other vortac |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 16000 flight time type : 1030 |
ASRS Report | 588407 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 130 flight time total : 4000 flight time type : 350 |
ASRS Report | 588411 |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather non adherence : clearance non adherence : required legal separation other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : wx radar other controllera other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory flight crew : declared emergency flight crew : exited adverse environment flight crew : returned to intended or assigned course |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Weather |
Primary Problem | Weather |
Narrative:
Flight from mia-rdu deviating for WX east of crg. Told by ATC to turn heading 270 degrees, or declare emergency (7700) due to warning areas hot. Deviating east of long mostly solid radar turns, 270 degree heading turned us between 2 cells rather close (visually looked poor), we turned to 300 degrees and asked jax if that would work. He said 270 degrees then 260 degrees and we turned to 260 degrees. At no time did we enter warning area and ZJX did a good job. The event highlights the need for ATC to have the ability to control that airspace in these rare sits. If allowed to continue north, no problems would have occurred.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737 CREW REQUEST TURN TO AVOID WX CELL AND ARE INSTRUCTED TO SQUAWK 7700 BECAUSE OF NEARBY ACTIVE MIL WARNING AREAS.
Narrative: FLT FROM MIA-RDU DEVIATING FOR WX E OF CRG. TOLD BY ATC TO TURN HEADING 270 DEGS, OR DECLARE EMER (7700) DUE TO WARNING AREAS HOT. DEVIATING E OF LONG MOSTLY SOLID RADAR TURNS, 270 DEG HDG TURNED US BTWN 2 CELLS RATHER CLOSE (VISUALLY LOOKED POOR), WE TURNED TO 300 DEGS AND ASKED JAX IF THAT WOULD WORK. HE SAID 270 DEGS THEN 260 DEGS AND WE TURNED TO 260 DEGS. AT NO TIME DID WE ENTER WARNING AREA AND ZJX DID A GOOD JOB. THE EVENT HIGHLIGHTS THE NEED FOR ATC TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO CTL THAT AIRSPACE IN THESE RARE SITS. IF ALLOWED TO CONTINUE N, NO PROBS WOULD HAVE OCCURRED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.