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Attributes | |
ACN | 588932 |
Time | |
Date | 200307 |
Day | Mon |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : zma.artcc |
State Reference | FL |
Environment | |
Weather Elements | Thunderstorm |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zma.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
ASRS Report | 588932 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : declared emergency |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance FAA Environmental Factor Airspace Structure ATC Human Performance Weather |
Primary Problem | Airspace Structure |
Narrative:
ZMA cleared us to deviate west around WX. Very large, heavy intensity activity located from pie to southern tip of florida, and east almost to east coast of florida. Handed off to next ZMA controller, and he advised that warning areas were hot, and that we could not continue deviating west, we would have to deviate east. I advised mia that there was an extremely large area of intense WX to the east, making an easterly deviation impossible. The controller replied that we had no choice, except to squawk emergency if we insisted on continuing on a westerly deviation. I squawked emergency, and continued with the westerly deviation. Please note: I am not faulting the controller, I think he was boxed in due to the inflexibility of the military use of his airspace. I suggested that he should advise the military to get the heck out of there so that the commercial aircraft could use the airspace as needed. He replied that the military wasn't budging. I sure do think that commercial airliners should be given priority over the military when severe WX is a factor!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B757 FLT CREW HAS TO DECLARE AN EMER TO ENTER MIL AIRSPACE TO AVOID WX.
Narrative: ZMA CLRED US TO DEVIATE W AROUND WX. VERY LARGE, HVY INTENSITY ACTIVITY LOCATED FROM PIE TO SOUTHERN TIP OF FLORIDA, AND E ALMOST TO E COAST OF FLORIDA. HANDED OFF TO NEXT ZMA CTLR, AND HE ADVISED THAT WARNING AREAS WERE HOT, AND THAT WE COULD NOT CONTINUE DEVIATING W, WE WOULD HAVE TO DEVIATE E. I ADVISED MIA THAT THERE WAS AN EXTREMELY LARGE AREA OF INTENSE WX TO THE E, MAKING AN EASTERLY DEV IMPOSSIBLE. THE CTLR REPLIED THAT WE HAD NO CHOICE, EXCEPT TO SQUAWK EMER IF WE INSISTED ON CONTINUING ON A WESTERLY DEV. I SQUAWKED EMER, AND CONTINUED WITH THE WESTERLY DEV. PLEASE NOTE: I AM NOT FAULTING THE CTLR, I THINK HE WAS BOXED IN DUE TO THE INFLEXIBILITY OF THE MIL USE OF HIS AIRSPACE. I SUGGESTED THAT HE SHOULD ADVISE THE MIL TO GET THE HECK OUT OF THERE SO THAT THE COMMERCIAL ACFT COULD USE THE AIRSPACE AS NEEDED. HE REPLIED THAT THE MIL WASN'T BUDGING. I SURE DO THINK THAT COMMERCIAL AIRLINERS SHOULD BE GIVEN PRIORITY OVER THE MIL WHEN SEVERE WX IS A FACTOR!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.