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Attributes | |
ACN | 596112 |
Time | |
Date | 200310 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ptk.airport |
State Reference | MI |
Altitude | msl single value : 1800 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : ptk.tower |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude climbout : takeoff |
Route In Use | approach : traffic pattern |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : ptk.tower |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Cessna 152 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude climbout : takeoff |
Route In Use | approach : traffic pattern |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 290 flight time total : 1710 flight time type : 700 |
ASRS Report | 596112 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : student |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : far non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 150 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was in right seat of a C172M. My student and I departed ptk on a touch and go. A C152 was cleared into position and hold, and then for takeoff with a right turn to the north outside of our aircraft's flight path. (Right traffic is standard for runway 27R.) while on downwind, we saw the C152 pass about 150 ft directly in front of us. No advisory was provided by ptk tower. The student pilot in the C152 is from a foreign country, and may have misunderstood 'outside the cessna on upwind.' but I believe he did not see us and turned early. No xmissions were made by either pilot. There was very little we could see because we just came out of our turn. The C152 should not have turned early without having us in sight.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A CFI IN A C172 EXPERIENCED AN NMAC WITH A C152 IN THE PATTER AT PTK.
Narrative: I WAS IN R SEAT OF A C172M. MY STUDENT AND I DEPARTED PTK ON A TOUCH AND GO. A C152 WAS CLRED INTO POS AND HOLD, AND THEN FOR TKOF WITH A R TURN TO THE N OUTSIDE OF OUR ACFT'S FLT PATH. (R TFC IS STANDARD FOR RWY 27R.) WHILE ON DOWNWIND, WE SAW THE C152 PASS ABOUT 150 FT DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF US. NO ADVISORY WAS PROVIDED BY PTK TWR. THE STUDENT PLT IN THE C152 IS FROM A FOREIGN COUNTRY, AND MAY HAVE MISUNDERSTOOD 'OUTSIDE THE CESSNA ON UPWIND.' BUT I BELIEVE HE DID NOT SEE US AND TURNED EARLY. NO XMISSIONS WERE MADE BY EITHER PLT. THERE WAS VERY LITTLE WE COULD SEE BECAUSE WE JUST CAME OUT OF OUR TURN. THE C152 SHOULD NOT HAVE TURNED EARLY WITHOUT HAVING US IN SIGHT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.