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Attributes | |
ACN | 600334 |
Time | |
Date | 200311 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : msp.airport |
State Reference | MN |
Altitude | msl single value : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : msp.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | A320 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 22r |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : instrument precision |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 140 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 600334 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : company policies other anomaly |
Independent Detector | atc equipment : msaw other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert flight crew : returned to intended or assigned course |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Aircraft Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
I crossed the OM high. In descending and trying to capture the GS, we triggered some kind of instrument in the control tower and they issued us a low altitude alert. They asked us if we were able to continue the approach. After we said yes, they commented that they were just not used to seeing aircraft descending that rapidly. At no time did we descend below the GS. During my debrief with the first officer, he stated that at one point inside the OM, we had as much as 4000 vsi. I felt we were stable prior to 1000 ft. He stated we were stable at 920 ft. All this was as a result of me not slowing and descending soon enough. I have heard and read of this problem with the A319 and A320. Now, I've been there, done that.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A320 FLT CREW HAS UNSTABILIZED APCH TO MSP.
Narrative: I CROSSED THE OM HIGH. IN DSNDING AND TRYING TO CAPTURE THE GS, WE TRIGGERED SOME KIND OF INST IN THE CTL TWR AND THEY ISSUED US A LOW ALT ALERT. THEY ASKED US IF WE WERE ABLE TO CONTINUE THE APCH. AFTER WE SAID YES, THEY COMMENTED THAT THEY WERE JUST NOT USED TO SEEING ACFT DSNDING THAT RAPIDLY. AT NO TIME DID WE DSND BELOW THE GS. DURING MY DEBRIEF WITH THE FO, HE STATED THAT AT ONE POINT INSIDE THE OM, WE HAD AS MUCH AS 4000 VSI. I FELT WE WERE STABLE PRIOR TO 1000 FT. HE STATED WE WERE STABLE AT 920 FT. ALL THIS WAS AS A RESULT OF ME NOT SLOWING AND DSNDING SOON ENOUGH. I HAVE HEARD AND READ OF THIS PROB WITH THE A319 AND A320. NOW, I'VE BEEN THERE, DONE THAT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.