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Attributes | |
ACN | 600751 |
Time | |
Date | 200311 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ord.airport |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-11 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 90 flight time total : 3000 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 600751 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 80 flight time total : 13500 flight time type : 2900 |
ASRS Report | 600752 |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : far non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Airport ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Contacted ground at K1. Ground controller asked if we wanted runway 9R or runway 14R based on the winds. Requested runway 14R. Controller told us to taxi via txwys K, T11, and T to runway 14R, cleared to cross runway 9R/27L. After crossing runway 14R/32L, the captain and I realized the ground controller did not state 'cleared to cross runway 14R/32L.' no conflict. Believed the instructions implied that we were cleared to cross all runways to runway 14R. In the future, I will make sure what the controller's intentions are by asking him to clarify. If there is any doubt, ask! Supplemental information from acn 600752: I think the controller gave incomplete and misleading instructions.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A RWY INCURSION OCCURS WHEN AN MD11 FLT CREW TAXIES ACROSS RWY 14R/32L DURING A NIGHT OP WITHOUT CLRNC ON THEIR WAY TO RWY 14R AT ORD, IL.
Narrative: CONTACTED GND AT K1. GND CTLR ASKED IF WE WANTED RWY 9R OR RWY 14R BASED ON THE WINDS. REQUESTED RWY 14R. CTLR TOLD US TO TAXI VIA TXWYS K, T11, AND T TO RWY 14R, CLRED TO CROSS RWY 9R/27L. AFTER XING RWY 14R/32L, THE CAPT AND I REALIZED THE GND CTLR DID NOT STATE 'CLRED TO CROSS RWY 14R/32L.' NO CONFLICT. BELIEVED THE INSTRUCTIONS IMPLIED THAT WE WERE CLRED TO CROSS ALL RWYS TO RWY 14R. IN THE FUTURE, I WILL MAKE SURE WHAT THE CTLR'S INTENTIONS ARE BY ASKING HIM TO CLARIFY. IF THERE IS ANY DOUBT, ASK! SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 600752: I THINK THE CTLR GAVE INCOMPLETE AND MISLEADING INSTRUCTIONS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.