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Attributes | |
ACN | 601164 |
Time | |
Date | 200311 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : las.airport |
State Reference | NV |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 7000 msl bound upper : 8000 |
Environment | |
Light | Dawn |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : l30.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-300 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure sid : boach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : l30.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure sid : boach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 5000 |
ASRS Report | 601164 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 3200 |
ASRS Report | 601384 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : clearance non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was contacted today by the union safety representative regarding an altitude deviation. Our departure SID was the boach 1 -- a new procedure for las was flown. Our clearance altitude was FL190, the only other restr was to cross roppr at 7000 ft. As we approached roppr, the controller asked us our altitude. We had exceeded the restr. The controller then went on to say that the next time, we need to be at 7000 ft or less. An air carrier flight directly behind us did the same thing we did and was given the same response. The air carrier crew got into a small discussion with the controller and then was given a phone number to call. We, on the other hand, were not. Due to that fact, we felt no action was going to be taken.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A FLT CREW OF A B737 FAILED TO MEET A XING RESTR WHILE DEPARTING LAS.
Narrative: I WAS CONTACTED TODAY BY THE UNION SAFETY REPRESENTATIVE REGARDING AN ALTDEV. OUR DEP SID WAS THE BOACH 1 -- A NEW PROC FOR LAS WAS FLOWN. OUR CLRNC ALT WAS FL190, THE ONLY OTHER RESTR WAS TO CROSS ROPPR AT 7000 FT. AS WE APCHED ROPPR, THE CTLR ASKED US OUR ALT. WE HAD EXCEEDED THE RESTR. THE CTLR THEN WENT ON TO SAY THAT THE NEXT TIME, WE NEED TO BE AT 7000 FT OR LESS. AN ACR FLT DIRECTLY BEHIND US DID THE SAME THING WE DID AND WAS GIVEN THE SAME RESPONSE. THE ACR CREW GOT INTO A SMALL DISCUSSION WITH THE CTLR AND THEN WAS GIVEN A PHONE NUMBER TO CALL. WE, ON THE OTHER HAND, WERE NOT. DUE TO THAT FACT, WE FELT NO ACTION WAS GOING TO BE TAKEN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.