A B737-200 flight crew taxies across the runway 25L hold short line located on runway 13 due to the ...

Attributes
ACN	625456
Time
Date	200407
Day	Thu
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : mke.airport
State Reference	WI
Altitude	agl single value : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tower : mke.tower
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	B737-200
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	ground : taxi
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Controlling Facilities	tower : mke.tower
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Commercial Fixed Wing
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	descent : approach
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 1500
ASRS Report	625456
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 600
ASRS Report	625045
Events
Anomaly	incursion : runway non adherence : clearance non adherence : far
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	controller : issued advisory
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Flight Crew Human Performance Airport
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Situations
Airport	markings : mke.airport

Narrative:

ATC gave taxi instructions, 'taxi to runway 25L via taxiway K, runway 13.' ATC told us to stop because we were past the hold short line on runway 13 for runway 25L. On the airport diagram, there is a taxiway 'north' that does not exist between the two runways. The hold short line on runway 13 is faded and weed covered. We did not conflict with runway 25L landing traffic. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: he did not even notice hold signs for this hold line. He said that this could be because he was heads down during the taxi completing first officer tasks. The reporter also has concern about the airport diagram indicating a taxiway 'north' at the approach end of runways 31 and 25L. Supplemental information from acn 625045: we didn't quite make it to taxiway 'M' when tower informed us that we were past the hold short line. There was an aircraft on final, but we were no factor.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: A B737-200 FLT CREW TAXIES ACROSS THE RWY 25L HOLD SHORT LINE LOCATED ON RWY 13 DUE TO THE LINE'S POOR CONDITION.

Narrative: ATC GAVE TAXI INSTRUCTIONS, 'TAXI TO RWY 25L VIA TXWY K, RWY 13.' ATC TOLD US TO STOP BECAUSE WE WERE PAST THE HOLD SHORT LINE ON RWY 13 FOR RWY 25L. ON THE ARPT DIAGRAM, THERE IS A TXWY 'N' THAT DOES NOT EXIST BETWEEN THE TWO RWYS. THE HOLD SHORT LINE ON RWY 13 IS FADED AND WEED COVERED. WE DID NOT CONFLICT WITH RWY 25L LNDG TFC. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: HE DID NOT EVEN NOTICE HOLD SIGNS FOR THIS HOLD LINE. HE SAID THAT THIS COULD BE BECAUSE HE WAS HEADS DOWN DURING THE TAXI COMPLETING FO TASKS. THE RPTR ALSO HAS CONCERN ABOUT THE ARPT DIAGRAM INDICATING A TXWY 'N' AT THE APCH END OF RWYS 31 AND 25L. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 625045: WE DIDN'T QUITE MAKE IT TO TXWY 'M' WHEN TWR INFORMED US THAT WE WERE PAST THE HOLD SHORT LINE. THERE WAS AN ACFT ON FINAL, BUT WE WERE NO FACTOR.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

A B737-200 flight crew taxies across the runway 25L hold short line located on runway 13 due to the line's poor condition.