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ZNY controller experienced operational error vectoring aircraft into non published holding pattern at FL200.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 628804 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200407 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | navaid : lrp.vortac |
| State Reference | PA |
| Altitude | msl single value : 20000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny.artcc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | EMB ERJ 145 ER&LR |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | cruise : holding |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny.artcc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | cruise : holding |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : radar |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Experience | controller radar : 4 |
| ASRS Report | 628804 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
| Consequence | faa : investigated |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 21000 vertical : 100 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Chart Or Publication Airspace Structure ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Holding aircraft in a non holding sector. No notice. Hold for 5 aircraft landing iad. Tried to vector aircraft into a non published holding pattern, when aircraft conflicted. Recommend a holding fix or a published holding pattern.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ZNY CTLR EXPERIENCED OPERROR VECTORING ACFT INTO NON PUBLISHED HOLDING PATTERN AT FL200.
Narrative: HOLDING ACFT IN A NON HOLDING SECTOR. NO NOTICE. HOLD FOR 5 ACFT LNDG IAD. TRIED TO VECTOR ACFT INTO A NON PUBLISHED HOLDING PATTERN, WHEN ACFT CONFLICTED. RECOMMEND A HOLDING FIX OR A PUBLISHED HOLDING PATTERN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.