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Attributes | |
ACN | 632787 |
Time | |
Date | 200409 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : zny.artcc |
State Reference | NY |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B757-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Route In Use | enroute : atlantic |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : relief pilot |
ASRS Report | 632787 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe maintenance problem : improper documentation maintenance problem : non compliance with mel non adherence : company policies non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other other : disp 6 |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : diverted to another airport other |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Aircraft Company Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Upon returning home from my trip, I had a message from airline safety office inquiring as to why I did not as soon as possible a previous flight on sep/sat/04. On this flight in question, we were SELCAL'ed by ZNY to contact company on HF. About 45-60 mins from our destination, dispatch informed us that we were not legal to land because one of our thrust reversers was on the MEL. They informed us that we could not land at a field of less than 7000 ft. Destination is 7070 ft, but it has a usable landing distance of 6700 ft, a change due to a displaced threshold. I was seat-filing for the captain who was on break. The first officer and I were puzzled because we did not see the penalty that dispatch was alluding to. We read it as a weight penalty that we could comply with legally. It was not until a few mins later that we realized that we had made the mistake of reading the cdl. We called the captain back and diverted to ZZZZ for an aircraft swap. Although we misread the MEL in new york and in the air initially, I thought that the problem ended with our legal landing in ZZZZ. I was unaware that we were in violation of an far until I spoke with air carrier safety.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B757-200 WITH AN INOP THRUST REVERSER DEPARTED FOR A DEST WITH A RWY TOO SHORT FOR THE THRUST REVERSER INOP MEL.
Narrative: UPON RETURNING HOME FROM MY TRIP, I HAD A MESSAGE FROM AIRLINE SAFETY OFFICE INQUIRING AS TO WHY I DID NOT ASAP A PREVIOUS FLT ON SEP/SAT/04. ON THIS FLT IN QUESTION, WE WERE SELCAL'ED BY ZNY TO CONTACT COMPANY ON HF. ABOUT 45-60 MINS FROM OUR DEST, DISPATCH INFORMED US THAT WE WERE NOT LEGAL TO LAND BECAUSE ONE OF OUR THRUST REVERSERS WAS ON THE MEL. THEY INFORMED US THAT WE COULD NOT LAND AT A FIELD OF LESS THAN 7000 FT. DEST IS 7070 FT, BUT IT HAS A USABLE LNDG DISTANCE OF 6700 FT, A CHANGE DUE TO A DISPLACED THRESHOLD. I WAS SEAT-FILING FOR THE CAPT WHO WAS ON BREAK. THE FO AND I WERE PUZZLED BECAUSE WE DID NOT SEE THE PENALTY THAT DISPATCH WAS ALLUDING TO. WE READ IT AS A WT PENALTY THAT WE COULD COMPLY WITH LEGALLY. IT WAS NOT UNTIL A FEW MINS LATER THAT WE REALIZED THAT WE HAD MADE THE MISTAKE OF READING THE CDL. WE CALLED THE CAPT BACK AND DIVERTED TO ZZZZ FOR AN ACFT SWAP. ALTHOUGH WE MISREAD THE MEL IN NEW YORK AND IN THE AIR INITIALLY, I THOUGHT THAT THE PROB ENDED WITH OUR LEGAL LNDG IN ZZZZ. I WAS UNAWARE THAT WE WERE IN VIOLATION OF AN FAR UNTIL I SPOKE WITH ACR SAFETY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.