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Attributes | |
ACN | 633708 |
Time | |
Date | 200410 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lax.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Marginal |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : sct.tracon tower : lax.tower tower : dvt.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-11 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 6r other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach descent : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | approach : instrument precision approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 20000 flight time type : 5000 |
ASRS Report | 633708 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Airspace Structure |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : lax.tower procedure or policy : sct.tracon |
Narrative:
4 different runway assignments. Lax ATIS advertised runway 6L, runway 7L, and runway 7R with runway 6R closed. Due to noise complaints, I considered runway 7R as the least likely option to be offered by tower. On descent into lax, we were led to expect runway 6L. Center asked for a maximum forward speed descent, which we complied with. On handoff to approach control, we were assigned runway 7L. South the GS became active, we were assigned runway 6R. Just as we intercepted runway 6R and stabilized on GS, we were asked if we could see runway 7R. Runway 7R was in sight and we accepted the visual. As we came closer to the shoreline, visibility declined to MVFR. During this entire process, the first officer was heads down trying to punch in all of the changes into the FMS. There comes a point where ATC becomes the primary hazard with numerous last min changes and total lack of a rational plan for handling traffic. Last min changes seem to be the norm at lax.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MD11 CREW WAS ASSIGNED 4 DIFFERENT RWYS GOING INTO LAX.
Narrative: 4 DIFFERENT RWY ASSIGNMENTS. LAX ATIS ADVERTISED RWY 6L, RWY 7L, AND RWY 7R WITH RWY 6R CLOSED. DUE TO NOISE COMPLAINTS, I CONSIDERED RWY 7R AS THE LEAST LIKELY OPTION TO BE OFFERED BY TWR. ON DSCNT INTO LAX, WE WERE LED TO EXPECT RWY 6L. CTR ASKED FOR A MAX FORWARD SPD DSCNT, WHICH WE COMPLIED WITH. ON HDOF TO APCH CTL, WE WERE ASSIGNED RWY 7L. S THE GS BECAME ACTIVE, WE WERE ASSIGNED RWY 6R. JUST AS WE INTERCEPTED RWY 6R AND STABILIZED ON GS, WE WERE ASKED IF WE COULD SEE RWY 7R. RWY 7R WAS IN SIGHT AND WE ACCEPTED THE VISUAL. AS WE CAME CLOSER TO THE SHORELINE, VISIBILITY DECLINED TO MVFR. DURING THIS ENTIRE PROCESS, THE FO WAS HEADS DOWN TRYING TO PUNCH IN ALL OF THE CHANGES INTO THE FMS. THERE COMES A POINT WHERE ATC BECOMES THE PRIMARY HAZARD WITH NUMEROUS LAST MIN CHANGES AND TOTAL LACK OF A RATIONAL PLAN FOR HANDLING TFC. LAST MIN CHANGES SEEM TO BE THE NORM AT LAX.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.