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Attributes | |
ACN | 650040 |
Time | |
Date | 200503 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ape.airport |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | msl single value : 6000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : rsw.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Citation Excel |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach descent : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | arrival : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : rsw.tracon |
Make Model Name | Baron 58/58TC |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 75 flight time total : 4000 flight time type : 250 |
ASRS Report | 650040 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 26062 flight time type : 290 |
ASRS Report | 650039 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude conflict : airborne less severe |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Miss Distance | vertical : 400 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
We were en route from pbi to apf. We had descended to 6000 ft. Level at 6000 ft; we noticed traffic on the TCASII at 12 O'clock position and 500 ft below. About 3-5 mi from the target; fort myers approach called out the traffic. While looking for the traffic; the sun made it difficult to spot him. I believe he began to climb and we received an RA. We followed the RA; climbed 500 ft and watched the traffic pass below. I believe it was a beech baron. Once clear; we descended to our assigned altitude of 6000 ft and advised ATC of the RA. While we were receiving the RA; the controller called us 3 or 4 times in about 20 seconds leaving us no time to respond. I think the controller was too busy. She could have vectored us or changed our altitude farther out. A simple vector would have avoided the entire situation. Supplemental information from acn 650039: approach called traffic at 5500 ft VFR.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: C560 FLT CREW EXPERIENCED TCASII RA AT 6000 FT WITH VFR ACFT AT 5500 FT WHILE BEING VECTORED BY RSW TRACON.
Narrative: WE WERE ENRTE FROM PBI TO APF. WE HAD DSNDED TO 6000 FT. LEVEL AT 6000 FT; WE NOTICED TFC ON THE TCASII AT 12 O'CLOCK POS AND 500 FT BELOW. ABOUT 3-5 MI FROM THE TARGET; FORT MYERS APCH CALLED OUT THE TFC. WHILE LOOKING FOR THE TFC; THE SUN MADE IT DIFFICULT TO SPOT HIM. I BELIEVE HE BEGAN TO CLB AND WE RECEIVED AN RA. WE FOLLOWED THE RA; CLBED 500 FT AND WATCHED THE TFC PASS BELOW. I BELIEVE IT WAS A BEECH BARON. ONCE CLR; WE DSNDED TO OUR ASSIGNED ALT OF 6000 FT AND ADVISED ATC OF THE RA. WHILE WE WERE RECEIVING THE RA; THE CTLR CALLED US 3 OR 4 TIMES IN ABOUT 20 SECONDS LEAVING US NO TIME TO RESPOND. I THINK THE CTLR WAS TOO BUSY. SHE COULD HAVE VECTORED US OR CHANGED OUR ALT FARTHER OUT. A SIMPLE VECTOR WOULD HAVE AVOIDED THE ENTIRE SIT. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 650039: APCH CALLED TFC AT 5500 FT VFR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.