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Attributes | |
ACN | 673559 |
Time | |
Date | 200509 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : teb.airport |
State Reference | NJ |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1500 msl bound upper : 1800 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90.tracon tower : zzz.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
Make Model Name | Learjet 35 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial climbout : takeoff |
Route In Use | departure sid : teb |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 4200 flight time type : 2600 |
ASRS Report | 673559 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On 09/fri/05 at approximately XA30 local; my co-pilot and I arrived at teb from the hotel. Upon arrival; we requested a power cart and proceeded to aircraft for an XC00 departure. I began my cockpit checks and after my co-pilot finished her walk-around; she crawled up front to begin loading the GPS. She asked which runway was in use (for the GPS); as I copied down the ATIS (they were advertising runway 24). I obtained our clearance (teb 5; radar vectors eliot) and reviewed the departure and noise abatement on my own (she was still loading the GPS). I set teb VOR in the navs and put 1500 ft in the altitude alerter. I continued on with my preflight duties and several mins later she left the aircraft to go inside. I did not conduct a verbal brief of the departure at this time; because we were both very familiar with the airport operations and I was unsure if the departure runway would change before our departure (they have had numerous runway closures lately; and had advised after our clearance to call ground for engine start -- which implied a possible delay). The passenger arrived on time and as I started engines; she reached for the departure on my yoke clip and reviewed it on her own. I completed the checks and turned the aircraft over to her for taxi. As we exited the ramp; she gave her preflight brief; which included the departure by memory (it was clipped on my yoke clip); but she was briefing the wrong runway (runway 6; pnj up to 2000 ft). I stopped her and said; 'well actually they are using runway 24 and the departure instructions are runway heading 1500 ft; right 280 degrees until 4.5 DME; then 2000 ft.' she acknowledged; 'ok.' on runway lineup I again stated; 'runway heading; 1500 ft; 190 KTS; 96.8 on the power.' she acknowledged. After liftoff; gear up; flaps up; she said; 'run that altitude alerter up to 2000 ft; we don't need to level off.' I looked down and stated; 'actually 1500 ft; right 280 degrees (she began the turn) until 4.5 DME.' at this point; I look up and we are at 1800 ft and climbing. My co-pilot responded; 'well; I can go back down; but we are almost there now.' (I look over and we are at 4.0 DME.) before I can respond; we get a radio call for 'current heading; climb to 4000 ft.' I respond to the radio call; since that will resolve our problem. The controllers did not acknowledge our altitude discrepancy and we proceeded uneventfully.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LR35 CREW BUSTS THE ALT RESTR ON TEB DEP OFF RWY 24.
Narrative: ON 09/FRI/05 AT APPROX XA30 LOCAL; MY CO-PLT AND I ARRIVED AT TEB FROM THE HOTEL. UPON ARR; WE REQUESTED A PWR CART AND PROCEEDED TO ACFT FOR AN XC00 DEP. I BEGAN MY COCKPIT CHKS AND AFTER MY CO-PLT FINISHED HER WALK-AROUND; SHE CRAWLED UP FRONT TO BEGIN LOADING THE GPS. SHE ASKED WHICH RWY WAS IN USE (FOR THE GPS); AS I COPIED DOWN THE ATIS (THEY WERE ADVERTISING RWY 24). I OBTAINED OUR CLRNC (TEB 5; RADAR VECTORS ELIOT) AND REVIEWED THE DEP AND NOISE ABATEMENT ON MY OWN (SHE WAS STILL LOADING THE GPS). I SET TEB VOR IN THE NAVS AND PUT 1500 FT IN THE ALT ALERTER. I CONTINUED ON WITH MY PREFLT DUTIES AND SEVERAL MINS LATER SHE LEFT THE ACFT TO GO INSIDE. I DID NOT CONDUCT A VERBAL BRIEF OF THE DEP AT THIS TIME; BECAUSE WE WERE BOTH VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE ARPT OPS AND I WAS UNSURE IF THE DEP RWY WOULD CHANGE BEFORE OUR DEP (THEY HAVE HAD NUMEROUS RWY CLOSURES LATELY; AND HAD ADVISED AFTER OUR CLRNC TO CALL GND FOR ENGINE START -- WHICH IMPLIED A POSSIBLE DELAY). THE PAX ARRIVED ON TIME AND AS I STARTED ENGINES; SHE REACHED FOR THE DEP ON MY YOKE CLIP AND REVIEWED IT ON HER OWN. I COMPLETED THE CHKS AND TURNED THE ACFT OVER TO HER FOR TAXI. AS WE EXITED THE RAMP; SHE GAVE HER PREFLT BRIEF; WHICH INCLUDED THE DEP BY MEMORY (IT WAS CLIPPED ON MY YOKE CLIP); BUT SHE WAS BRIEFING THE WRONG RWY (RWY 6; PNJ UP TO 2000 FT). I STOPPED HER AND SAID; 'WELL ACTUALLY THEY ARE USING RWY 24 AND THE DEP INSTRUCTIONS ARE RWY HEADING 1500 FT; R 280 DEGS UNTIL 4.5 DME; THEN 2000 FT.' SHE ACKNOWLEDGED; 'OK.' ON RWY LINEUP I AGAIN STATED; 'RWY HEADING; 1500 FT; 190 KTS; 96.8 ON THE POWER.' SHE ACKNOWLEDGED. AFTER LIFTOFF; GEAR UP; FLAPS UP; SHE SAID; 'RUN THAT ALT ALERTER UP TO 2000 FT; WE DON'T NEED TO LEVEL OFF.' I LOOKED DOWN AND STATED; 'ACTUALLY 1500 FT; R 280 DEGS (SHE BEGAN THE TURN) UNTIL 4.5 DME.' AT THIS POINT; I LOOK UP AND WE ARE AT 1800 FT AND CLBING. MY CO-PLT RESPONDED; 'WELL; I CAN GO BACK DOWN; BUT WE ARE ALMOST THERE NOW.' (I LOOK OVER AND WE ARE AT 4.0 DME.) BEFORE I CAN RESPOND; WE GET A RADIO CALL FOR 'CURRENT HEADING; CLB TO 4000 FT.' I RESPOND TO THE RADIO CALL; SINCE THAT WILL RESOLVE OUR PROB. THE CTLRS DID NOT ACKNOWLEDGE OUR ALT DISCREPANCY AND WE PROCEEDED UNEVENTFULLY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.