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Attributes | |
ACN | 674095 |
Time | |
Date | 200510 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : teb.airport |
State Reference | NJ |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1500 msl bound upper : 2000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Marginal |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Learjet 45 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Route In Use | departure sid : teb |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 115 flight time total : 10200 flight time type : 1500 |
ASRS Report | 674095 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
ASRS Report | 674014 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure aircraft equipment problem : critical |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Prior to the passenger arriving at teb; the co-pilot and I conducted a departure briefing specifically discussing the teb 5 departure. With gate hold procedures in effect we loaded our passenger and call for engine start. ATC advises us that we are on the list and to expect a one hour delay. Our final destination is ict; and the first part of our clearance is the teb 5 departure to etx. One hour and twenty mins after calling for engine start we are cleared for takeoff. Once airborne off runway 24 I climbed out on runway heading to 1500 ft MSL then turned to a heading of 280 degrees and continued to climb to 2000 ft MSL. At about 3.5 DME from teb VOR departure control asked us 'what is your altitude?' we responded with '2000 ft.' the controller then responded with 'be advised that you are to maintain 1500 ft until reaching 4.5 DME off the teb VOR.' I responded at this time with 'roger thank you very much.' the rest of the flight went well. My co-pilot and I regularly fly into teb and are familiar with the teb 5 departure. The moral of the story is that all departures should be rebriefed prior to takeoff when significant delays are encountered and/or numerous distrs have taken place since previous briefing. We cannot count on the wonderful human memory alone to remember the information for long periods of time.supplemental information from acn 674014: while departing teb for ict; departing on the teb 5 departure from runway 24. The pilot flying from the left seat departed from runway 24 climb to 1500 ft on runway heading turn to a heading of 280 degrees as per the teb 5 departure. Then we climbed to 2000 ft before the required 4.5 DME from teb VOR was achieved. ATC advised us of the deviation at 3.5 DME from teb VOR. No deviations were required by other aircraft. Both the captain and myself are very familiar with the departure and I should have watched closer the departure procedure. A fix would have been to re-read the teb 5 departure before the takeoff as we had a 1 hour 20 min ground hold on that day.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LR45 CREW BUSTS THE ALT RESTR ON TEB DEP OFF RWY 24.
Narrative: PRIOR TO THE PAX ARRIVING AT TEB; THE CO-PLT AND I CONDUCTED A DEP BRIEFING SPECIFICALLY DISCUSSING THE TEB 5 DEP. WITH GATE HOLD PROCS IN EFFECT WE LOADED OUR PAX AND CALL FOR ENGINE START. ATC ADVISES US THAT WE ARE ON THE LIST AND TO EXPECT A ONE HOUR DELAY. OUR FINAL DEST IS ICT; AND THE FIRST PART OF OUR CLRNC IS THE TEB 5 DEP TO ETX. ONE HR AND TWENTY MINS AFTER CALLING FOR ENGINE START WE ARE CLRED FOR TKOF. ONCE AIRBORNE OFF RWY 24 I CLBED OUT ON RWY HDG TO 1500 FT MSL THEN TURNED TO A HDG OF 280 DEGS AND CONTINUED TO CLB TO 2000 FT MSL. AT ABOUT 3.5 DME FROM TEB VOR DEP CTL ASKED US 'WHAT IS YOUR ALT?' WE RESPONDED WITH '2000 FT.' THE CTLR THEN RESPONDED WITH 'BE ADVISED THAT YOU ARE TO MAINTAIN 1500 FT UNTIL REACHING 4.5 DME OFF THE TEB VOR.' I RESPONDED AT THIS TIME WITH 'ROGER THANK YOU VERY MUCH.' THE REST OF THE FLT WENT WELL. MY CO-PLT AND I REGULARLY FLY INTO TEB AND ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE TEB 5 DEP. THE MORAL OF THE STORY IS THAT ALL DEPS SHOULD BE REBRIEFED PRIOR TO TKOF WHEN SIGNIFICANT DELAYS ARE ENCOUNTERED AND/OR NUMEROUS DISTRS HAVE TAKEN PLACE SINCE PREVIOUS BRIEFING. WE CANNOT COUNT ON THE WONDERFUL HUMAN MEMORY ALONE TO REMEMBER THE INFO FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME.SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 674014: WHILE DEPARTING TEB FOR ICT; DEPARTING ON THE TEB 5 DEP FROM RWY 24. THE PLT FLYING FROM THE L SEAT DEPARTED FROM RWY 24 CLB TO 1500 FT ON RWY HDG TURN TO A HEADING OF 280 DEGS AS PER THE TEB 5 DEP. THEN WE CLBED TO 2000 FT BEFORE THE REQUIRED 4.5 DME FROM TEB VOR WAS ACHIEVED. ATC ADVISED US OF THE DEV AT 3.5 DME FROM TEB VOR. NO DEVIATIONS WERE REQUIRED BY OTHER ACFT. BOTH THE CAPT AND MYSELF ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE DEP AND I SHOULD HAVE WATCHED CLOSER THE DEP PROC. A FIX WOULD HAVE BEEN TO RE-READ THE TEB 5 DEP BEFORE THE TAKEOFF AS WE HAD A 1 HR 20 MIN GND HOLD ON THAT DAY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.