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Attributes | |
ACN | 691236 |
Time | |
Date | 200603 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : slc.airport |
State Reference | UT |
Altitude | msl single value : 9000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Weather Elements | Turbulence |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : s56.tracon tower : den.tower |
Operator | Other |
Make Model Name | Falcon 50 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 34l |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : instrument precision arrival : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : s56.tracon |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 34r |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : instrument precision |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company other |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 9300 flight time type : 2500 |
ASRS Report | 691236 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company other |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 70 flight time total : 8200 flight time type : 750 |
ASRS Report | 691080 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : returned to original clearance |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
While flying the brigham city arrival to slc; we had set up for the ILS runway 34R. This seems to be the usual approach for aircraft that utilize the east ramp. We were given the ILS runway 34L and had to quickly tune identify the navaids and brief the approach. We were given a vector of left turn (from downwind) 070 degrees then a vector of 010 degrees to intercept and cleared for the approach. We must have been very close to the course for it came 'alive' very quickly. As the pilot monitoring; I hadn't noticed that the PF hadn't selected approach arm but instead was in navigation. Before he could maneuver the airplane to a heading of 010 degrees. The autoplt took the airplane out the localizer away from the airport. The PF promptly disengaged the autoplt; initiated a greater than standard rate turn to re-intercept the localizer. I; as pilot monitoring; radioed approach that we were coming around to re-join the localizer at about the same time we received a TCAS TA on the plane next to us on the ILS runway 34R. ATC gave us a descent and reclred us for the ILS runway 34L. I think this situation could have been avoided by asking ATC which approach we could receive instead of guessing. As pilot monitoring give bearings and distances to the PF of fixes along the localizer course; and doublechk both pilots' flight director modes; it is part of the approach checklist. Supplemental information from acn 691080: the late change of approach to ILS runway 34L and 2 tight turns; the second one to '010 degrees cleared for the approach' coming too late to intercept; with a simultaneous approach on ILS runway 34R caused me to turn at a 45 degree angle of bank to try and intercept.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FA50 FLT CREW OVERSHOOTS LOC ON APCH INTO SLC RESULTING IN A TCAS TA AND ADDITIONAL VECTORS.
Narrative: WHILE FLYING THE BRIGHAM CITY ARR TO SLC; WE HAD SET UP FOR THE ILS RWY 34R. THIS SEEMS TO BE THE USUAL APCH FOR ACFT THAT UTILIZE THE E RAMP. WE WERE GIVEN THE ILS RWY 34L AND HAD TO QUICKLY TUNE IDENT THE NAVAIDS AND BRIEF THE APCH. WE WERE GIVEN A VECTOR OF L TURN (FROM DOWNWIND) 070 DEGS THEN A VECTOR OF 010 DEGS TO INTERCEPT AND CLRED FOR THE APCH. WE MUST HAVE BEEN VERY CLOSE TO THE COURSE FOR IT CAME 'ALIVE' VERY QUICKLY. AS THE PLT MONITORING; I HADN'T NOTICED THAT THE PF HADN'T SELECTED APCH ARM BUT INSTEAD WAS IN NAV. BEFORE HE COULD MANEUVER THE AIRPLANE TO A HDG OF 010 DEGS. THE AUTOPLT TOOK THE AIRPLANE OUT THE LOC AWAY FROM THE ARPT. THE PF PROMPTLY DISENGAGED THE AUTOPLT; INITIATED A GREATER THAN STANDARD RATE TURN TO RE-INTERCEPT THE LOC. I; AS PLT MONITORING; RADIOED APCH THAT WE WERE COMING AROUND TO RE-JOIN THE LOC AT ABOUT THE SAME TIME WE RECEIVED A TCAS TA ON THE PLANE NEXT TO US ON THE ILS RWY 34R. ATC GAVE US A DSCNT AND RECLRED US FOR THE ILS RWY 34L. I THINK THIS SITUATION COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED BY ASKING ATC WHICH APCH WE COULD RECEIVE INSTEAD OF GUESSING. AS PLT MONITORING GIVE BEARINGS AND DISTANCES TO THE PF OF FIXES ALONG THE LOC COURSE; AND DOUBLECHK BOTH PLTS' FLT DIRECTOR MODES; IT IS PART OF THE APCH CHKLIST. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 691080: THE LATE CHANGE OF APCH TO ILS RWY 34L AND 2 TIGHT TURNS; THE SECOND ONE TO '010 DEGS CLRED FOR THE APCH' COMING TOO LATE TO INTERCEPT; WITH A SIMULTANEOUS APCH ON ILS RWY 34R CAUSED ME TO TURN AT A 45 DEG ANGLE OF BANK TO TRY AND INTERCEPT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.