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Attributes | |
ACN | 694856 |
Time | |
Date | 200604 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | intersection : kaddy |
State Reference | NV |
Altitude | msl single value : 12000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : l30.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-300 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | arrival star : tyssn1 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 5300 flight time type : 950 |
ASRS Report | 694856 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance controller : issued advisory |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Aircraft |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Narrative:
Upon arrival at the kaddy intersection on the tyssn 1 RNAV arrival into las; the autoplt made an approximately 60 degree right turn at the kaddy intersection. ATC called to ask us where we were going. Our response was that we were on the assigned RNAV arrival just past kaddy intersection. His reply stated that we had turned approximately 6 NM early on the arrival and now we were north of course. We then requested radar vectors to a visual approach. Upon further investigation; found out that the FMS was not automatic updating the position relative to available navaids along our route. We had been cleared direct to different fixes and navaids along our route; never actually reaching the NAVAID prior to being cleared further downline to other fixes. The first indication we were off course was the center call. Our FMS's showed the IRS's were within .2 NM of the course and position assigned. Coming down final the FMS showed that we were on the runway at the FAF. The captain manually updated the FMS and the map then showed the correct position. I believe this was a map shift that we didn't readily identify. Although I'm aware of the possibility of map shifts; I had never seen one and had no reason to believe that I was off course.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737-300 FLT CREW HAS A TRACK HDG DEV DURING THE TYSSN 1 ARR TO LAS.
Narrative: UPON ARR AT THE KADDY INTXN ON THE TYSSN 1 RNAV ARR INTO LAS; THE AUTOPLT MADE AN APPROX 60 DEG R TURN AT THE KADDY INTXN. ATC CALLED TO ASK US WHERE WE WERE GOING. OUR RESPONSE WAS THAT WE WERE ON THE ASSIGNED RNAV ARR JUST PAST KADDY INTXN. HIS REPLY STATED THAT WE HAD TURNED APPROX 6 NM EARLY ON THE ARR AND NOW WE WERE N OF COURSE. WE THEN REQUESTED RADAR VECTORS TO A VISUAL APCH. UPON FURTHER INVESTIGATION; FOUND OUT THAT THE FMS WAS NOT AUTO UPDATING THE POS RELATIVE TO AVAILABLE NAVAIDS ALONG OUR RTE. WE HAD BEEN CLRED DIRECT TO DIFFERENT FIXES AND NAVAIDS ALONG OUR RTE; NEVER ACTUALLY REACHING THE NAVAID PRIOR TO BEING CLRED FURTHER DOWNLINE TO OTHER FIXES. THE FIRST INDICATION WE WERE OFF COURSE WAS THE CTR CALL. OUR FMS'S SHOWED THE IRS'S WERE WITHIN .2 NM OF THE COURSE AND POS ASSIGNED. COMING DOWN FINAL THE FMS SHOWED THAT WE WERE ON THE RWY AT THE FAF. THE CAPT MANUALLY UPDATED THE FMS AND THE MAP THEN SHOWED THE CORRECT POS. I BELIEVE THIS WAS A MAP SHIFT THAT WE DIDN'T READILY IDENT. ALTHOUGH I'M AWARE OF THE POSSIBILITY OF MAP SHIFTS; I HAD NEVER SEEN ONE AND HAD NO REASON TO BELIEVE THAT I WAS OFF COURSE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.