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Attributes | |
ACN | 701094 |
Time | |
Date | 200606 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : zzzz.airport |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | msl single value : 33000 |
Environment | |
Weather Elements | Thunderstorm |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zzzz.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B747-400 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 220 flight time total : 18000 flight time type : 3700 |
ASRS Report | 701094 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : wx radar other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : overcame equipment problem flight crew : returned to intended or assigned course |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Weather |
Primary Problem | Weather |
Narrative:
Level cruise. Isolated cumulonimbus clouds along our route of flight. We needed to deviation right of track and requested route on cpdlc. Response was 'unable.' I typed back that we were deviating right of course and proceeded to avoid the cumulonimbus. Control responded 'unable.' we kept deviation under 10 mi and once clear resumed track. A couple of hours later in same conditions we requested route for cumulonimbus avoidance. No response from control. Made request again after few mins -- no response. I used the ATC emergency prompt for deviation and proceeded to avoid multiple cumulonimbus clouds on our track. We finally got permission after we had deviated approximately 7 mi off track. Never in 6 yrs as a -400 captain have I experienced these communication and clearance problems. Unfortunate to have ATC issues twice on 1 leg.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: UNABLE TO COM WITH TOKYO IN A TIMELY FASHION; B747-400 FLT CREW TWICE UTILIZES EMER AUTH TO ALTER COURSE DUE TO CONVECTIVE ACTIVITY ON THEIR RTE OF FLT.
Narrative: LEVEL CRUISE. ISOLATED CUMULONIMBUS CLOUDS ALONG OUR RTE OF FLT. WE NEEDED TO DEV R OF TRACK AND REQUESTED ROUTE ON CPDLC. RESPONSE WAS 'UNABLE.' I TYPED BACK THAT WE WERE DEVIATING R OF COURSE AND PROCEEDED TO AVOID THE CUMULONIMBUS. CTL RESPONDED 'UNABLE.' WE KEPT DEV UNDER 10 MI AND ONCE CLR RESUMED TRACK. A COUPLE OF HRS LATER IN SAME CONDITIONS WE REQUESTED ROUTE FOR CUMULONIMBUS AVOIDANCE. NO RESPONSE FROM CTL. MADE REQUEST AGAIN AFTER FEW MINS -- NO RESPONSE. I USED THE ATC EMER PROMPT FOR DEV AND PROCEEDED TO AVOID MULTIPLE CUMULONIMBUS CLOUDS ON OUR TRACK. WE FINALLY GOT PERMISSION AFTER WE HAD DEVIATED APPROX 7 MI OFF TRACK. NEVER IN 6 YRS AS A -400 CAPT HAVE I EXPERIENCED THESE COM AND CLRNC PROBS. UNFORTUNATE TO HAVE ATC ISSUES TWICE ON 1 LEG.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.