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Attributes | |
ACN | 702156 |
Time | |
Date | 200607 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ord.airport |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | msl single value : 14000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zau.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-83 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zau.artcc |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
ASRS Report | 702156 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne critical non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to assigned altitude flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 1000 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
Given descent clearance by ZAU to descend to 11000 ft. Instructed to maintain 2500 FPM rate of descent. During descent given left turn to heading 360 degrees. Shortly after rolling out on new heading and descending through approximately 14000 ft received traffic alert from TCAS system. Target aircraft on TCAS screen displayed 2000 ft below and in our flight path. Recognizing the ensuing conflict I stated to the captain that we would get an RA. The captain had recognized this concurrently and began to arrest descent. RA immediately followed with adjust vertical speed to an aggressive climb resolution. My TCAS display at this point was on 6 NM scale and showed conflict aircraft overlaid on our aircraft symbol. Vertical separation showed 1000 ft. Captain followed TCAS commands which instructed 2000 FPM rate of climb until clear of conflict was annunciated. Leveled at 17000 ft. During maneuver I instructed ATC that we were responding to RA and climbing. ATC rogered my transmission and after a pause made the statement 'I thought you said you were going to descend;' which I believe was directed at the conflicting aircraft. We then received clearance back down to 11000 ft and direct to ord. I stated to ATC that we would be writing up the incident. No acknowledgement was received to this statement or any further xmissions heard directed at conflict aircraft. It is my opinion that without the TCAS and the actions it compelled us to commence we could have had a very bad outcome to this event.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MD80 FLT CREW HAS A TCAS RA DURING DSCNT TO ORD.
Narrative: GIVEN DSCNT CLRNC BY ZAU TO DSND TO 11000 FT. INSTRUCTED TO MAINTAIN 2500 FPM RATE OF DSCNT. DURING DSCNT GIVEN L TURN TO HDG 360 DEGS. SHORTLY AFTER ROLLING OUT ON NEW HDG AND DSNDING THROUGH APPROX 14000 FT RECEIVED TFC ALERT FROM TCAS SYS. TARGET ACFT ON TCAS SCREEN DISPLAYED 2000 FT BELOW AND IN OUR FLT PATH. RECOGNIZING THE ENSUING CONFLICT I STATED TO THE CAPT THAT WE WOULD GET AN RA. THE CAPT HAD RECOGNIZED THIS CONCURRENTLY AND BEGAN TO ARREST DSCNT. RA IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWED WITH ADJUST VERT SPD TO AN AGGRESSIVE CLB RESOLUTION. MY TCAS DISPLAY AT THIS POINT WAS ON 6 NM SCALE AND SHOWED CONFLICT ACFT OVERLAID ON OUR ACFT SYMBOL. VERT SEPARATION SHOWED 1000 FT. CAPT FOLLOWED TCAS COMMANDS WHICH INSTRUCTED 2000 FPM RATE OF CLB UNTIL CLR OF CONFLICT WAS ANNUNCIATED. LEVELED AT 17000 FT. DURING MANEUVER I INSTRUCTED ATC THAT WE WERE RESPONDING TO RA AND CLBING. ATC ROGERED MY XMISSION AND AFTER A PAUSE MADE THE STATEMENT 'I THOUGHT YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING TO DSND;' WHICH I BELIEVE WAS DIRECTED AT THE CONFLICTING ACFT. WE THEN RECEIVED CLRNC BACK DOWN TO 11000 FT AND DIRECT TO ORD. I STATED TO ATC THAT WE WOULD BE WRITING UP THE INCIDENT. NO ACKNOWLEDGEMENT WAS RECEIVED TO THIS STATEMENT OR ANY FURTHER XMISSIONS HEARD DIRECTED AT CONFLICT ACFT. IT IS MY OPINION THAT WITHOUT THE TCAS AND THE ACTIONS IT COMPELLED US TO COMMENCE WE COULD HAVE HAD A VERY BAD OUTCOME TO THIS EVENT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.