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Attributes | |
ACN | 703880 |
Time | |
Date | 200607 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | intersection : decor |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl single value : 11000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : sct.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer only : 24r other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | arrival star : seavu.one |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
ASRS Report | 703880 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Airspace Structure ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
We were on the seavu one arrival to lax. This was the first time I had ever flown this particular arrival but we had reviewed and briefed the arrival with an anticipated landing on runway 25L at lax. We were initially told by socal to expect the ILS runway 25L but at some point after the cataw fix; that was changed to fly the ILS runway 24L. The first officer reprogrammed the FMS to comply and so far no difficulties occurred. Somewhere between the seavu fix and shurl fix we were instructed to change to the ILS runway 24R because of a runway closure. I think we were just moments before the turn at shurl when we got that change. The first officer again started programming the change while I dialed in the new localizer frequency for runway 24R. At some point; I forgot to continue the descent early enough to meet the altitude block of 9800 ft to 9000 ft MSL at the decor fix. To the best I can recall we were able to meet all remaining restrictions and landed uneventfully. There did not appear to be any traffic conflicts at the time. It seems like the rapid succession of runway changes combined with the closeness of the fixes at shurl and minza and my inability to locate the restrictions of the new ILS quickly enough made it very difficult to stay right on top of the situation the way I prefer.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN MD80 CREW ON THE LAX SEAVU ONE ARR WAS GIVEN TWO RWY CHANGES AND BECAME DISTRACTED; CAUSING THE ACFT TO BE HIGH AT THE DECOR INTXN.
Narrative: WE WERE ON THE SEAVU ONE ARR TO LAX. THIS WAS THE FIRST TIME I HAD EVER FLOWN THIS PARTICULAR ARR BUT WE HAD REVIEWED AND BRIEFED THE ARR WITH AN ANTICIPATED LNDG ON RWY 25L AT LAX. WE WERE INITIALLY TOLD BY SOCAL TO EXPECT THE ILS RWY 25L BUT AT SOME POINT AFTER THE CATAW FIX; THAT WAS CHANGED TO FLY THE ILS RWY 24L. THE FO REPROGRAMMED THE FMS TO COMPLY AND SO FAR NO DIFFICULTIES OCCURRED. SOMEWHERE BETWEEN THE SEAVU FIX AND SHURL FIX WE WERE INSTRUCTED TO CHANGE TO THE ILS RWY 24R BECAUSE OF A RWY CLOSURE. I THINK WE WERE JUST MOMENTS BEFORE THE TURN AT SHURL WHEN WE GOT THAT CHANGE. THE FO AGAIN STARTED PROGRAMMING THE CHANGE WHILE I DIALED IN THE NEW LOCALIZER FREQ FOR RWY 24R. AT SOME POINT; I FORGOT TO CONTINUE THE DSCNT EARLY ENOUGH TO MEET THE ALT BLOCK OF 9800 FT TO 9000 FT MSL AT THE DECOR FIX. TO THE BEST I CAN RECALL WE WERE ABLE TO MEET ALL REMAINING RESTRICTIONS AND LANDED UNEVENTFULLY. THERE DID NOT APPEAR TO BE ANY TFC CONFLICTS AT THE TIME. IT SEEMS LIKE THE RAPID SUCCESSION OF RWY CHANGES COMBINED WITH THE CLOSENESS OF THE FIXES AT SHURL AND MINZA AND MY INABILITY TO LOCATE THE RESTRICTIONS OF THE NEW ILS QUICKLY ENOUGH MADE IT VERY DIFFICULT TO STAY RIGHT ON TOP OF THE SITUATION THE WAY I PREFER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.