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Attributes | |
ACN | 708235 |
Time | |
Date | 200608 |
Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sfo.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : act.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | A320 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : parked |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 160 flight time total : 19000 flight time type : 3000 |
ASRS Report | 708235 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Company |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
While reviewing papers; crew noted that cockpit door keypad was deactivated. Our concern was that there was no way to open cockpit door from cabin in an emergency. MEL for deferral did not mention anything about this fact. If there is no way to open door from cabin; pilots are at risk if incapacitated in an emergency. With this in mind; recommend that the MEL be reviewed and changed as appropriate. In the old days; we had a key in the cabin and if it was lost then flight could not occur. The electric lock should be regarded the same way.callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter states he refused the aircraft until they fixed the keypad. He recalls that when the reinforced doors were first installed; flight crews were reassured that emergency access would be provided from the cabin; hence the keypad; which doesn't do much good if the aircraft can be dispatched with it inoperative.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN A320 FLT CREW NOTICED THE COCKPIT DOOR SECURITY KEYPAD WAS DEFERRED INOP AND THEY WERE CONCERNED THAT THERE WOULD BE NO ACCESS TO THE COCKPIT FROM THE CABIN IN AN EMER.
Narrative: WHILE REVIEWING PAPERS; CREW NOTED THAT COCKPIT DOOR KEYPAD WAS DEACTIVATED. OUR CONCERN WAS THAT THERE WAS NO WAY TO OPEN COCKPIT DOOR FROM CABIN IN AN EMER. MEL FOR DEFERRAL DID NOT MENTION ANYTHING ABOUT THIS FACT. IF THERE IS NO WAY TO OPEN DOOR FROM CABIN; PLTS ARE AT RISK IF INCAPACITATED IN AN EMER. WITH THIS IN MIND; RECOMMEND THAT THE MEL BE REVIEWED AND CHANGED AS APPROPRIATE. IN THE OLD DAYS; WE HAD A KEY IN THE CABIN AND IF IT WAS LOST THEN FLT COULD NOT OCCUR. THE ELECTRIC LOCK SHOULD BE REGARDED THE SAME WAY.CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR STATES HE REFUSED THE ACFT UNTIL THEY FIXED THE KEYPAD. HE RECALLS THAT WHEN THE REINFORCED DOORS WERE FIRST INSTALLED; FLT CREWS WERE REASSURED THAT EMER ACCESS WOULD BE PROVIDED FROM THE CABIN; HENCE THE KEYPAD; WHICH DOESN'T DO MUCH GOOD IF THE ACFT CAN BE DISPATCHED WITH IT INOP.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.